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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@...>
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 at 7:25:57 AM
Subject: Re: [LAW] Strange flanging drums
Message #156273
Hi Robert, >> If I get MIDI data into logic a recorded from trigger inputs on >> the TD-6, use a keyboard or manually place notes in the matrix editor, >> the problem persists. > > The solution is quit simple. You should turn of 'Local midi' on your > synth. Your drummodule or keyboard sends midi directly to > the 'soundengine' of the drummodule or keyboard. So it will receive > the midi-information twice (also from the sequencer). If your TD 6 is anything like my older TD 5 drum pad kit, there is no local off on the module. The only thing you can do is, in Logic, set up a fader object before your TD 6 instrument and set the fader to filter out thru. So, basically the midi thru won't go back to your TD 6. The flanging will be gone. -- Eli Krantzberg Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com
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From: "borisolgauk" <bowmanr@...>
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 at 8:16:58 AM
Subject: Re: [LAW] Strange flanging drums
Message #156277
This is a reply to #156273.
Eli Krantzberg wrote: > > The solution is quit simple. You should turn of 'Local midi' on your > > synth. Your drummodule or keyboard sends midi directly to > > the 'soundengine' of the drummodule or keyboard. So it will receive > > the midi-information twice (also from the sequencer). > > If your TD 6 is anything like my older TD 5 drum pad kit, there is no local > off on the module. The only thing you can do is, in Logic, set up a fader > object before your TD 6 instrument and set the fader to filter out thru. So, > basically the midi thru won't go back to your TD 6. The flanging will be > gone. Thanks for your comments. I'll have a look for a Local MIDI setting on the TD-6. However, I guess I did not say that I have tried disconnecting the MIDI out of the TD-6 whilst sending MIDI data from Logic, only for the flange to persist (I wondered if the TD-6 was sending out MIDI data of what it's playing only for Logic to send that back -- I figured that would become an endless feedback loop though). Therefore, I wondered if MIDI information was arriving at the TD-6 duplicated from Logic somehow. In line with that idea and whats been suggested, I shall see about the MIDI thru fader thingy ... hmmm, manual time (does that mean that this MIDI thru functionality is being performed in Logic? Why does my N1R not do this on non-drum tracks??) I shall have a look at the suggestions made when I get home tonight (UK time) and let you know what occurs. Thanks for all your help Kind regards Robert
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From: "maxtech.audioservices" <maxtech.audioservices@...>
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 at 8:42:02 AM
Subject: Re: [LAW] Strange flanging drums
Message #156280
This is a reply to #156277.
> However, I guess I did not say that I have tried disconnecting the > MIDI out of the TD-6 whilst sending MIDI data from Logic, only for > the flange to persist (I wondered if the TD-6 was sending out MIDI > data of what it's playing only for Logic to send that back -- I > figured that would become an endless feedback loop though). > Therefore, I wondered if MIDI information was arriving at the TD-6 > duplicated from Logic somehow. In line with that idea and whats been > suggested, I shall see about the MIDI thru fader thingy ... hmmm, > manual time (does that mean that this MIDI thru functionality is > being performed in Logic? Why does my N1R not do this on non-drum > tracks??) the N1R is a rack module that has no Internal triggering. Local mode toggles on or off a synth's own keyboard or pads in terms of them communicating with the onboard sound Synth. Thus with local on and a sequencer on with midi thru, the note data is arriving at the Synth twice , slightly delayed in one instance by the journey to the computer and back, giving you the phased sound. turning local mode off means the keyboard or pads are only sending data to the computer, and not the onboard sounds, the computer then returns the data to the specified Synth, channel and voice. So you only trigger once and have no phase issue. hope that clears it up. Max
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