Hi again all, The other big question I had (only two so far...) is: I notice that there are updaters from 4.0.0 to 4.0.3, and 4.0.3 to 4.0.4 on the Emagic web site. The version I've got says it is 4.0.0. So it looks like to upgrade to 4.0.4, I need to do it in two steps. That part I'm pretty clear on. The part I'm not sure about is: Is the .exe different in the Competitive Upgrade version? In other words, can I use the updaters to upgrade this version, or do I need to wait until the "full" version arrives? Is there a difference in the .exe's, or is it just a matter of manuals and back up disks and so forth? Thanks again, Sean -- Sean R. Kerns (aka Snake) e-mail: music@... Bloodspoint Studio - Home of Stalking Horse http://www.bloodspoint.com "You're in a band... That's like a business class ticket to cool, with complimentary mojo after takeoff..."