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From: Hans Hafner <hanshafner@...>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 at 1:44:09 PM
Subject: Logic 6 and Reaktor
Message #153094
Hi there, I'm looking into buying Reaktor 4 and would like to know how well it works as a plug-in. If you could send experiences on OS 9 and OS X as well. That would be amazing. Reaktor 3 never really worked as a plug-in and I don't want to spend another couple of hundred Euros just to find out that it doesn't cut it. Thanks and cheers Hans Sytem: Logic 6.3.1 G4 Dual 533Mhz / 1 GB RAM OS X (10.2.8) MOTU 2408mk2 Unitor8
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From: Gareth Jones <g@...>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 at 4:31:28 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic 6 and Reaktor
Message #153111
This is a reply to #153094.
<admin - Please quote first, then reply!> At 20:44 +0100 2/1/04, Hans Hafner wrote: >I'm looking into buying Reaktor 4 and would like to know how well it >works as a plug-in. If you could send experiences on OS 9 and OS X as >well. That would be amazing. > >Reaktor 3 never really worked as a plug-in and I don't want to spend >another couple of hundred Euros just to find out that it doesn't cut >it. i always felt that the great sounds that come out of Reaktor made up for its err..... eccentricities also Reaktor 4 is a free update from 3 i believe. fwiw, i have Reaktor4 plugins running in OSX, but i have not tested them extensively -- Best Regards, Gareth Jones http://www.garethjones.com
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From: Michael Szumowski <misha@...>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 at 4:56:32 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic 6 and Reaktor
Message #153112
This is a reply to #153094.
On 03/01/2004, at 6:44 AM, Hans Hafner wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm looking into buying Reaktor 4 and would like to know how well it > works as a plug-in. If you could send experiences on OS 9 and OS X as > well. That would be amazing. > > Reaktor 3 never really worked as a plug-in and I don't want to spend > another couple of hundred Euros just to find out that it doesn't cut > it. > > I would be very careful before you purchase Reaktor 4. I've had major problems trying to get it to work reliably, to the point where I don't even have it installed at the moment. It's to buggy. I'd have a look at NI forums and read some of the posts regarding Reaktor 4 and Logic on a Mac cheers mish
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From: "Andrew Hayes" <ahayes@...>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 at 5:39:42 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic 6 and Reaktor
Message #153114
This is a reply to #153112.
> On 03/01/2004, at 6:44 AM, Hans Hafner wrote: > > I'm looking into buying Reaktor 4 and would like to know how well it > > works as a plug-in. If you could send experiences on OS 9 and OS X as > > well. That would be amazing. > > Reaktor 3 never really worked as a plug-in and I don't want to spend > > another couple of hundred Euros just to find out that it doesn't cut > > it. > > > I would be very careful before you purchase Reaktor 4. I've had major > problems trying to get it to work reliably, to the point where I don't > even have it installed at the moment. It's to buggy. I'd have a look > at NI forums and read some of the posts regarding Reaktor 4 and Logic > on a Mac > cheers > mish I use reaktor 4 exstensively with Logic 6.1 on OSX. I don't really have to many problems with it, there are occasional crashes maybe one or two over an 8 hour period. However, a friend of mine has the same setup and has much more frequent crashes, but still not enough to abandon it all together. The one thing that definietly is a no go with reaktor 4 is automation. There are a few very tidious workarounds for automating audio instruments, but you can pretty much forget about automating reaktor when it is an insert. I also find that the more instances of R4 you have open coupled with the amount of heavy editing you may be doing on an instrument seems to increase the likelihood of a crash. However, all that being said i am fairly happy with the performance i get out of it. Hope this helps. Andrew.
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From: Scott Riley <rilen13@...>
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 at 11:14:28 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic 6 and Reaktor
Message #153158
This is a reply to #153114.
I use Reaktor 4 on os x and on my powerbook it works great... the g 5 my friend has works good(w/reaktor).. and on my main system g4 1 ghz dual.... works stabil... most of the time (80%) . but the sounds are so killer I do not care if it crashes... To me it is worth the money ... rilen13
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From: "Paul Levine" <Paul_Levine@...>
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 at 2:02:46 PM
Subject: Re: Logic 6 and Reaktor
Message #153172
This is a reply to #153114.
I have been generally successful using Reaktor 4 and Logic 6 on a 1GHz 15" TiBook with Jaguar. One thing that is annoying is that when you open a song in Logic, each Reaktor instance loads up with the default "new" ensemble. Each instance of Kontakt loads up it's instrument (or multi) perfectly, but Reaktor just doesn't cooperate. Is anybody out there getting Reaktor plug-in instances to load with the correct ensembles? I feel like this used to work at some point in the past, but I don't remember which versions of what I was using. Paul
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From: "Dan" <dannyalv@...>
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 at 6:29:11 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic 6 and Reaktor
Message #153193
This is a reply to #153112.
> > Reaktor 3 never really worked as a plug-in and I don't want to spend > > another couple of hundred Euros just to find out that it doesn't cut > > it. I love Reaktor 4 for the sound and the variety. My sense is that it's much more stable than v3, but that isn't saying so much because v3 was completely impossible to use as a logic-plugi; too many crashes. I haven't done a whole lot of saving and recalling with R4 as a plug in Logic, but so far I believe it's worked. I need to do more extensive testing on this to make a definitive statement about it. I've had a few crashes and instabilities, but nowhere near what v3 was like. One thing you definitely have to do is save whatever state you're in as a snapshot and make sure to resave the Ensemble with that snapshot included, because I think Logic looks for the * snapshot* when recalling a song. as opposed to recalling the instrument in its last saved state regardless of whether it's been saved or not--which is what you can do with most other plugs. One other thing that annoys the hell out of me is that you can't resize the AU plugin window to accomodate some of the larger Reaktor ensembles, so you have to work in a small window and scroll around, which is not the case when using Reaktor as a standalone. Still, I'd have to say the fact that it's usable at all as a plug is a major improvement. -Dan Alvarez -Dan
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