I-m a long time LAM user and have lived happily with my 9.2.2 on my ageing G3. So I just upgraded to the G5 2x2Ghz with Panther and installed the latest Logic (6.3.2). To avoid so much trouble as possible I tested the system with only Emagic hardware (amt8 and emi 26). My dissapointment were quite huge discovering the system is almost usless to me for now... 1 The audio starts crackling after a while. Restart the core audio helps, but only for some minutes . 2 MIDI / Audio timing is horrible! Recording a MIDI click as audio produces flams. I remember this with some early versions of LAM but thats a long time ago! 3 The recorded audio doesnt line up right graphically in the arrange window. The quantized MIDI seems (visually) to fall almost an 32nd note early! The above results came when I started working on a new project at 48kHz. The emi 26 uses digital sync as I have an external AD/DA. Are there any other brave persons out there who have tried an updated system like this - with better results ;-). Regards Frode

On 02.12.2003, at 23:38, frfjellh wrote: > 1 The audio starts crackling after a while. Restart the core audio > helps, but > only for some minutes . > > 2 MIDI / Audio timing is horrible! Recording a MIDI click as audio > produces > flams. I remember this with some early versions of LAM but thats a > long time > ago! > > 3 The recorded audio doesnt line up right graphically in the arrange > window. > The quantized MIDI seems (visually) to fall almost an 32nd note early! Did you set System Preferences->Energy Saver->Options to Highest instead of the default (automatic)? Best Ray ------- Raymund Beyer http://www.brainstorm-music.com

Raymund Beyer wrote: > Did you set System Preferences->Energy Saver->Options to Highest > instead of the default (automatic)? > > Best > > Ray > Yes I did, also tried 44.1 and a few other adjustments - nothing seems to help. Frode

> > Did you set System Preferences->Energy Saver->Options to Highest > > instead of the default (automatic)? > > > > Ray > > > Yes I did, also tried 44.1 and a few other adjustments - nothing seems to help. > > Frode Hi, i have same midi time problem ans someone told me that is a osx problem for all audio-midi sequencers but i've installed DP4.11 also and it have not this problem, so i think is a Logic bug. Daniele

Th e bug i've mentioned is so: if you set your audio card to 512 samples your audio tracks will play back with a delay of 512 samples, the midi tracks are in time, the audio tracks no. Audio card set to 1024 samples means audio play back of 1024 samples. i hope emagic will solves tooooo soon. Daniele

On Dec 3, 2003, at 2:25 AM, thealtsax wrote: > Th e bug i've mentioned is so: if you set your audio card to 512 > samples your audio > tracks will play back with a delay of 512 samples, the midi tracks are > in time, the > audio tracks no. Audio card set to 1024 samples means audio play back > of 1024 > samples. i hope emagic will solves tooooo soon. > Daniele fwiw...i tested this by recording a midi drum beat, then digitizing it, and playing them both back together. they played perfectly on top of one another. could your problem lye in your audio interface? note: i'm recording with a 1224 and a 2408mkII. dual 1ghz 48k/24 bit. os 10.3.1. hope this helps, -chris on the list

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Chris DeStefano <c.destefano@c...> wrote: > fwiw...i tested this by recording a midi drum beat, then digitizing it, > and playing them both back together. they played perfectly on top of > one another. could your problem lye in your audio interface? note: > i'm recording with a 1224 and a 2408mkII. dual 1ghz 48k/24 bit. os > 10.3.1. > > hope this helps, > -chris on the list Thank youy but if i play my midi hardware synth with audio tracks in Logic, the hardware synths plays always anticipated. Titanium 667, LAP 6.3.2/ Unitor 8 mk2 and MT4/ RME hammerfal dsp card bus with Multiface/ emi 2/6 / varius virtual instruments and hardware instruments

On 12/3/03 6:25 PM, "Chris DeStefano" <c.destefano@...> wrote: > fwiw...i tested this by recording a midi drum beat, then digitizing it, > and playing them both back together. they played perfectly on top of > one another. could your problem lye in your audio interface? note: > i'm recording with a 1224 and a 2408mkII. dual 1ghz 48k/24 bit. os > 10.3.1. > > hope this helps, > -chris on the list > I made some trial last week (a Panterized G5 2X2, Motu PCI 424+24i+1296+2048MKII), depending of the buffer size set in the audio driver pref I got the sample before and after the position they where played. VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY strange ! Best regards Cyril Blanc France

> 2 MIDI / Audio timing is horrible! Recording a MIDI click as audio produces > flams. I remember this with some early versions of LAM but thats a long time > ago! > I have a similar problem. I've just started using Logic 6.3.1 on a G4 933Mhz w/ Panther. The MIDI click is a mess -- almost every time I record the click cuts out or stutters. No solution yet.

<Admin - we have stopped using the [LAM] label, as announced here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-users/message/152813>; > 2 MIDI / Audio timing is horrible! Recording a MIDI click as audio produces > flams. I remember this with some early versions of LAM but thats a long time > ago! I'm having the same problems. It's not just an offset, the timing goes faster and slower. Is it anything to do with journalling file systems? Where is the AMT I used to know and love? Anyone having any success with this? dual 2 gig G5, logic 6.3.3, OSX 10.3.2, performance - maximum, AMT8, USB midi driver 1.5. Cheers z.