Hi All QUANTIZATION - (n-Tuplet) ---------------------------------------- The manual says: "Odd quantization¨ "The setting 9-Tuplet means novetuplets (1 bar = 9 beats)…” YES but ONLY if you are in 4/4 time signature... e.g. In 5/4 the 5-Tuplet should give you 5 beats in the bar. But it doesn't ! It gives you 7 and a bit. In waltz time (3/4) you get some weird spacing that clearly relates to 4/4. So basically it seems that this feature does not work (maybe a Bug?). If you want to check it, use Hyper EDIT it's quite clear what is going on from there. Which leads me to ask: ---------------------------- q: do other quantization-related functions (such as user-defined groove templates) only work in 4/4 as well? In other words, if I make up a groove in 4/4 does it not work in 3/4 either? thanks in advance for any help Lu

On Tuesday, Dec 2, 2003, at 17:31 Europe/London, rdfe wrote: > QUANTIZATION - (n-Tuplet) > ---------------------------------------- > e.g. In 5/4 the 5-Tuplet should give you 5 beats in the bar. But it > doesn't > ! It gives you 7 and a bit. In waltz time (3/4) you get some weird > spacing > that clearly relates to 4/4. So basically it seems that this feature > does > not work (maybe a Bug?). If you want to check it, use Hyper EDIT it's > quite > clear what is going on from there. This is NOT a bug! Tuplets are always divisions of 1, 2 or 4 beats (or 1/2 or 1/8) and it's to do with the way they are notated. A 5-tuplet means "play these five crotchets (quarter notes) in the space of one semibrieve (four quarter notes)" just as triplet quavers (eigth notes) always means "play these 3 quavers (eigth notes) in the space of one crotchet (quarter note)". That's always true regardless of the time signature. If we didn't stick to this convention reading them would be an utter nightmare. If you want to play five beats in a 5/4 bar use 5 crotchets (quarter notes)! If you want to invent other cross rhythms (which isn't the same thing as using tuplets, although tuplets are cross rhythms) you have to calculate the lengths of the notes you want - dividing a 5/4 bar into 8 even beats, for example, requires notes 5/8ths of a crotchet (quarter note) long - a quaver tied to a semi-demi-quaver (an eigth note tied to a thirty-two'th note). These things are quite straightforward to program in Logic as soon as you know what the lowest common time denomination is. In this case it's a thirty-two'th, so set the matrix editor to 32 subdivisions per beat and click the notes into the right places. Learning notated music theory may not be an essential part of musicianship, but the way our tools work with music is built on it, and with good reason. If you want to find out more I'm sure there's a few websites out there which will clearly explain tuplets. Cheers, Stephen.