> John Oliver wrote: > I seem to have increased incidents of crashing problems while editing > in the score > window since version 6 on OS X. I have 6.3.2 and it seems to occur > quite often with > files that have been updated from the previous file format. When I > start a fresh new > song, I don't have the problem. But I am now working on a piece with > several song > files where a lot of work was done last year in the older file format. > This new crashing > bug seems to occur when I select a group of notes and press the delete > key to delete > them. Then the program freezes and needs a Force Quit and Restart. > Anyone else > with this experience. Is there a bug in version 6 or the OS X > implementation? Hi John, I've been experiencing a similar thing, but I don't think just with older files - I've observed that I get a crash when trying to select anything that's not notes (e.g. slur or articulation marks). It doesn't seem to be consistent behaviour for me, though. Logic's scoring capability is not a high priority for the programmers it seems. It's too bad, as it's got real potential. A friend of mine (who uses Sibelius now) told me Logic has far fewer scoring features than the old Notator used to have(!...)

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, JohnAbram <johnabram@s...> wrote: > I've been experiencing a similar thing, but I don't think just with > older files - I've observed that I get a crash when trying to select > anything that's not notes (e.g. slur or articulation marks). > It doesn't seem to be consistent behaviour for me, though. > Logic's scoring capability is not a high priority for the programmers > it seems. It's too bad, as it's got real potential. A friend of mine > (who uses Sibelius now) told me Logic has far fewer scoring features > than the old Notator used to have(!...) Hi John, I've checked into this and it has to do with non-note objects as you say. This is not acceptable is it? If notation is part of the program, then it has to work, not crash the computer. I can't believe I'd get to the day when I couldn't rely on Logic for notation. All of my scores are done with Logic. I agree that NOTATOR for ATARI was an excellent program and the features in Logic were initially really poor by comparison. But now Logic does have good parts extraction and other features going for it. But crashing because I select and delete a group of slurs? Come on emagic! Not acceptable! John

> I've checked into this and it has to do with non-note objects as you say. This > is not > acceptable is it? If notation is part of the program, then it has to work, not > crash the > computer. I can't believe I'd get to the day when I couldn't rely on Logic for > notation. > All of my scores are done with Logic. > > I agree that NOTATOR for ATARI was an excellent program and the features in > Logic > were initially really poor by comparison. But now Logic does have good parts > extraction and other features going for it. > > But crashing because I select and delete a group of slurs? Come on emagic! Not > acceptable! > > John I was getting crashes when I moved an object in the arrange page or matrix editor. Couldn't reach Emagic over the holidays so I called Apple. The following solution solved the problem and may help you here: 1. Zap the P-ram..that is, start computer holding Command Option P R and let it chime four times. 2. On the fourth chime, hold down Command Option O F (Really, I'm not kidding) 3. When the command line comes on the screen, let go of the keys, then type: "reset-nvram," (no quotes) then hit Enter. 4. Lastly, type in: "reset-all" (no quotes), and hit Enter This apparently clears up some obscure registers that can cause erratic behavior if they get scrambled through crashes, bad instals, etc.. Its also a good idea to have a copy of Disk Warrior and use it regularly. Lockups followed by a hard reboot reek havoc on your directory, which DW repairs nicely. Keep in mind if the directory gets messed up enough, you could lose all, so its money well spent. Hope this helps, James

James wrote: > 1. Zap the P-ram..that is, start computer holding Command Option P R and let > it chime four times. > 2. On the fourth chime, hold down Command Option O F (Really, I'm not > kidding) > 3. When the command line comes on the screen, let go of the keys, then type: > "reset-nvram," (no quotes) then hit Enter. > 4. Lastly, type in: "reset-all" (no quotes), and hit Enter <snip> > Its also a good idea to have a copy of Disk Warrior and use it regularly. > Lockups followed by a hard reboot reek havoc on your directory, which DW > repairs nicely. Keep in mind if the directory gets messed up enough, you > could lose all, so its money well spent. This cleared up the problem for me. Thanks very much. I have yet to try all of the files that had been crashing. Does Disk Warrior help figure out if there are problems with Logic song files? The praise this program gets is incredible. I might get a copy. John