What's up with these two devices? Has Emagic stopped with their Logic control? And if so, why? Because of Mackie? And is the Mackie Control Universal the same, or are there differences? What would you advise to buy (when using LAMP 6 with MacOS X 10.3, with Emagic softsynths and EXS24)? Remco

> What's up with these two devices? Has Emagic stopped with their Logic > control? And if so, why? Because of Mackie? And is the Mackie Control > Universal the same, or are there differences? What would you advise to > buy (when using LAMP 6 with MacOS X 10.3, with Emagic softsynths and > EXS24)? > > > Remco I believe Emagic and Mackie have reached an agreement whereby all systems now work the same such that old LC set-ups can be updated to work with other apps, Mackie Controls can be updated to work with Logic and the MC Universal has all firmware/software for 'both' pre-installed. HTH Tony Perretta

Remco Muntz <rmuntz@...> writes: >What's up with these two devices? Has Emagic stopped with their Logic >control? And if so, why? Because of Mackie? And is the Mackie Control >Universal the same, or are there differences? What would you advise to >buy (when using LAMP 6 with MacOS X 10.3, with Emagic softsynths and >EXS24)? If you don't intend on using the controller with anything except Logic, then get the cheaper Logic Control. However, it can be updated to do what the Mackie Control does (probably costing about as much as the difference in price between them). Once the Logic Control sells out, I doubt any more will be made. No matter, because Mackie Control does everything plus more (because of the recent addition of functionality giving it the "Universal" name). Both machines were always the same anyway, except with different firmware inside. And different silkscreen graphics. (you can get a Lexan overlay for the host software of your choice: DP, Logic, ProTools, Cubase etc....) f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

I am happily running my Logic Control and XT with both Logic and DP thanks to the firmware update on Mackies website. You can purchase a chip to give you V2 and HUI mode, but you only need it for HUI mode. The free update gives you full Logic or Mackie Control modes, selectable on boot up. Paul

On 11/30/03 2:19 PM, "Tony Perretta" <bambony@...> wrote: > I believe Emagic and Mackie have reached an agreement whereby all systemsnow > work the same such that old LC set-ups can be updated to work with other apps, > Mackie Controls can be updated to work with Logic and the MC Universal has all > firmware/software for 'both' pre-installed. Yes but the problem is that you must, at boot of your control surface, decide if your surface will be Logic or Mackie Not VERY NICE ;o((((((((( If Logic drops the Logic Control it should be able to use the Mackie mode instead. By the way one foot of my LC is unstuck where can I have one ? Best regards Cyril Blanc France

Cyril Blanc <blanc.cyril@...> writes: >Yes but the problem is that you must, at boot of your control surface, >decide if your surface will be Logic or Mackie >Not VERY NICE ;o((((((((( The only problem this could be is if you wanted to constantly toggle between two pieces of software and use the Control Surface on both. But then you'd constantly have to disengage the Control Surface from the background software anyway. So what's the problem with having the Control Surface being either for Logic or for others but not simultaneously? f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

> Yes but the problem is that you must, at boot of your control surface, > decide if your surface will be Logic or Mackie > Not VERY NICE ;o((((((((( > Not quite. Once you have configured which mode you want the Mackie control to boot up in it will boot into that mode everytime without prompting. If you decide you wish to use another mode, you turn it on while holding down a button combination which gives you a simple prompt for whichever mode you want. I purchased what I thought was a mackie control universal 3 months ago, and only then realised it was actually an upgraded Mackie Control, the main difference being the default button layout on a 'real' universal is for logic. Anyway, I called my dealer and they swapped it for a universal model and I'm very happy with it. If anyone has any questions I'd be more than happy to answer them. Tas

> From: f-erenc szabo <zerobeat@...> > Reply-To: logic-users@yahoogroups.com > Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 09:38:55 -0500 > To: logic-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [LUG] [LC] Logic Control or Mackie Control Universal? > > Cyril Blanc <blanc.cyril@...> writes: >> Yes but the problem is that you must, at boot of your control surface, >> decide if your surface will be Logic or Mackie >> Not VERY NICE ;o((((((((( > > The only problem this could be is if you wanted to constantly > toggle between two pieces of software and use the Control > Surface on both. But then you'd constantly have to disengage > the Control Surface from the background software anyway. > So what's the problem with having the Control Surface being > either for Logic or for others but not simultaneously? Logic and Cuemix...