Hi, I'm trying to work out if it is possible to draw automation data for plugins in the buses. I know that it is possible to record automation such as volume and pan by moving the faders when in play mode, but there seems to be no way to edit or draw this automation like you would for tracks in the arrange window. Surely there must be a way to see and alter that data in the arrange window? Also there appears to be no way at all to record automation for plugins which are inserted in group buses - when I move the knobs of the plugins, Logic does not record the movement. Surely I don't have to bounce the tracks being sent to the bus and then automate any effects I wanted on the sub-mix? Anyone know the answers? Cheers, Trevor

"trev9999999" <temasterson@...> writes: >I'm trying to work out if it is possible to draw automation data for >plugins in the buses. I know that it is possible to record automation >such as volume and pan by moving the faders when in play mode, but >there seems to be no way to edit or draw this automation like you >would for tracks in the arrange window. Surely there must be a way to >see and alter that data in the arrange window? > >Also there appears to be no way at all to record automation for >plugins which are inserted in group buses - when I move the knobs of >the plugins, Logic does not record the movement. Surely I don't have >to bounce the tracks being sent to the bus and then automate any >effects I wanted on the sub-mix? To use HyperDraw on a track's automation, you need to place that Track in the Arrange. By default, busses have their icon switched off so they don't appear in the track flipmenu (in other words, they don't appear as something you can assign a track to). In the Environment, find the buss (or aux or whatever) in question and turn on its icon via the Object Parameter Box on the left hand side. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

>> see and alter that data in the arrange window? Writing automation by moving controls of Channels that don't have a Track in the Arrangement automatically causes Logic to append a Track with this Channel in the arrangement. Scroll down, it's there. To instantiate automation with Hyperdraw only, assign the Aux or Bus object to the current Arrangement Track with apple-click. Doesn't require a checked icon. Christian