Hi all, I'm getting ready to move to Thailand early next year and as such am in the process of selling all my equipment and am going to be narrowing it down to just my Nord mod, Logic, and a 15" 1Ghz Powerbook. Now the audio interface that so far looks the best for this is the M-Audio FireWire 410. Both in terms of flexibility and price. What I'm wondering is: Have any of you had any problems with the M-Audio FireWire 410 and Logic and a Powerbook? Regards, . . . . arik . . . . http://www.anomalousrecords.com/nom22.html

you may like to look at the motu-mac archives for some (possibly relevant) 410 problems. steve parker

On Samstag, Oktober 4, 2003, at 10:21 Uhr, fibrillation wrote: > I'm getting ready to move to Thailand early next year Sounds nice! > and as such am > in the process of selling all my equipment and am going to be > narrowing it > down to just my Nord mod, Logic, and a 15" 1Ghz Powerbook. > > Now the audio interface that so far looks the best for this is the > M-Audio > FireWire 410. Both in terms of flexibility and price. > > What I'm wondering is: Have any of you had any problems with the > M-Audio > FireWire 410 and Logic and a Powerbook? There have been a few thread on this list about that. The 410 uses high amount of cpu (users reported between 20 and 30 %!). I would prefer to go for a MOTU FW interface (maybe used). They are not bus powered, but M-AUdio is not exactely know as a company that delivers brilliant Mac drivers. Best Ray ------- Raymund Beyer http://www.brainstorm-music.com

> From: Raymund Beyer <lists@...> >> I'm getting ready to move to Thailand early next year > > Sounds nice! Hi there, I certainly hope so :-) Going to be in Bangkok at first then hopefully find a nice beach to live on. > There have been a few thread on this list about that. The 410 uses high > amount of cpu (users reported between 20 and 30 %!). Whoah! That's not good at all, after hearing this, and following up on the sugestions of other posters here I've come to think that the FireWire 410 is not the way to go. >I would prefer to go for a MOTU FW interface (maybe used). Somebody that i have a lot of respect for suggested the Motu 828 to me, I thought it was out of my price range but after checking ebay it seems that the Mk1 version would be in my price range. Do you or anybody else on the list think this would be a better way to go with a powerbook and Logic instead of a Emagic EMI 6|2 m? Thanks to all for help and suggestions, . . . . arik . . . . http://www.anomalousrecords.com/nom22.html

I've tried understanding how the outputs of VST multi instruments (DR008 in this case) are routed through the Logic Audio path, by reading everything I could find in the 5.0 manual and online help. Neither seems to say very much, and what is said is quite confusing. Can anyone help me out? - Andy

> >I've tried understanding how the outputs of VST multi instruments (DR008 >in this case) are routed through the Logic Audio path, by reading >everything I could find in the 5.0 manual and online help. Neither seems >to say very much, and what is said is quite confusing. Can anyone help >me out? You are going to have to spell out the problem. Where are you getting hung up?

On a fine day, 05-10-2003, Andy Voelkel wrote: >I've tried understanding how the outputs of VST multi instruments (DR008 >in this case) are routed through the Logic Audio path, by reading >everything I could find in the 5.0 manual and online help. Neither seems >to say very much, and what is said is quite confusing. Can anyone help >me out? FAQ 20.4 might be helpful... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra h @ k n o w a r e . n l Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

> >I've tried understanding how the outputs of VST multi instruments (DR008 > >in this case) are routed through the Logic Audio path, by reading > >everything I could find in the 5.0 manual and online help. Neither seems > >to say very much, and what is said is quite confusing. Can anyone help > >me out? > > FAQ 20.4 might be helpful... Sorry, I'm being stupid. Where can I find this FAQ? I looked quickly at yahoogroups.com under logic-users, but didn't find anything. (I normally read the list via a normal email client, not a yahoo). Thanks in advance for any help! - Andy

> >I've tried understanding how the outputs of VST multi instruments (DR008 > >in this case) are routed through the Logic Audio path, by reading > >everything I could find in the 5.0 manual and online help. Neither seems > >to say very much, and what is said is quite confusing. Can anyone help > >me out? > > You are going to have to spell out the problem. Where are you > getting hung up? The Logic online help said that all outputs of a multi-instruments are routed to outputs 1-2 "by default", but says nothing about how to change the default. It also says that aux objects are used for multi _effects_ outputs "starting at channel 3", and only mentions VST multi _instruments_ in passing. What does "starting at channel 3 mean? What happens if you are using aux objects to capture multi outputs with more specificity (which seems to be what you are suppposed to do), but you have more than one VST multi-instrument. Are all the VST multi instruments handled identically? On the DR-008, you can set up a variable number of multi-outputs and a variable number of aux outputs. Is there a distinction between "main" and "aux" inputs in the VST multi-instrument spec? If so, how does Logic treat them? Etc. - Andy

> > FAQ 20.4 might be helpful... > > Sorry, I'm being stupid. Where can I find this FAQ? I looked quickly at > yahoogroups.com under logic-users, but didn't find anything. (I normally > read the list via a normal email client, not a yahoo). Hi Andy Logic Users Group - Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ (this is the first line written in every digest sent out :-)). kind regards Mark Cahill

On a fine day, 06-10-2003, Andy Voelkel wrote: > > >I've tried understanding how the outputs of VST multi instruments (DR008 >> >in this case) are routed through the Logic Audio path, by reading >> >everything I could find in the 5.0 manual and online help. Neither seems >> >to say very much, and what is said is quite confusing. Can anyone help >> >me out? >> >> FAQ 20.4 might be helpful... > >Sorry, I'm being stupid. Where can I find this FAQ? At the bottom of each and every LUG message :-) >Logic Users Group - Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ To answer your question: each VSTi has its own way of determining what goes to which output. In the EXS for example you define outputs in the Instrument Editor -- every zone and group can be assigned to whichever of the 16 EXS outputs. Insert the VSTi as a 'multi' in the mixer strip -- i.e. use the multi-instrument entry on the insert popup menu, and not the mono or stereo options! Then the VSTi mixer strip itself will output the 1st 2 outputs of the VSTi. Subsequent outputs (3-16 with the EXS) can be accessed through Aux objects. If you have a Multi Instrument inserted in some Audio-Instr mixer strip, and you have an Aux object in your mixer, you'll see its outputs appear in the Aux's *input* popup. If you have a multi-EXS for instance, you'll see "EXS 3-4, EXS 4-5, ..." appear in every Aux's input popup. Simply pick the inputs you want... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra h @ k n o w a r e . n l Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

> Hi Andy > > Logic Users Group - Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > > (this is the first line written in every digest sent out :-)). > > kind regards > > Mark Cahill Doh!

>The Logic online help said that all outputs of a multi-instruments are >routed >to outputs 1-2 "by default", but says nothing about how to change the >default. I don't think you can change the default. >It also says that aux objects are used for multi _effects_ outputs "starting >at channel 3", and only mentions VST multi _instruments_ in passing. What >does >"starting at channel 3 mean? What happens if you are using aux objects to >capture multi outputs with more specificity (which seems to be what you are >suppposed to do), but you have more than one VST multi-instrument. Are all >the >VST multi instruments handled identically? By "starting at channel 3" they mean channels 1 and 2 come out of the instrument object itself and the rest of the channels starting at channel 3 will appear at the inputs of the aux objects. Just instanciate a multi instrument on, say instrument five, the go to an aux object and click hold the input slot you should see a dropdown menu that reads input bus instrument 5 > Now click on the arrow after instrument five and you will see another drop down menu with a list of the outputs from multi instrument 5 it should look like this: input bus instrument 5 > 008 3 <patch name> 008 4 <patch name> 008 5 <patch name> 008 6 <patch name> 008 7 <patch name> 008 8 <patch name> Just select the output number you want and you should be in business. If you have also instanciated a multi instrument in instrument 6 you should now see a list that looks like this in the drop down menu of the aux: input bus instrument 5 > instrument 6 > If I understand the other part of your question as you can see from the above the outputs of each of the multi instruments *are* discrete if that is what you were asking.