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From: "strobe_tallbot" <strobe_tallbot@...>
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 at 1:41:39 PM
Subject: [LAM] how do I stop note durations on selection?
Message #147185
As it is if I click on a midi note in the Matrix I'm forced to listen to it's entire duration of the note. Is there a way to make the notes sound only while I have my mouse clicked and held on it? i.e. click on=note on/click off=note off.
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From: "strobe_tallbot" <strobe_tallbot@...>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 at 2:12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LAM] how do I stop note durations on selection?
Message #147266
This is a reply to #147185.
> As it is if I click on a midi note in the Matrix I'm forced to listen to it's entire duration > of the note. Is there a way to make the notes sound only while I have my mouse > clicked and held on it? i.e. click on=note on/click off=note off. Sorry for the bump. I guess in all the 6.31 excitement measly question was overlooked. This little Logic non-feature is really bugging me. Can anyone tell me how to turn it off? -thanks
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From: Brian Gascoigne <brian@...>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 at 3:52:39 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAM] how do I stop note durations on selection?
Message #147275
This is a reply to #147185.
>As it is if I click on a midi note in the Matrix I'm forced to >listen to it's entire duration >of the note. Is there a way to make the notes sound only while I have my mouse >clicked and held on it? i.e. click on=note on/click off=note off. > key command for stop sequence playing also stops notes in Matrix when sequencer stopped. Regards brian
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From: "osepek" <dannyalv@...>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 at 8:35:20 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAM] how do I stop note durations on selection?
Message #147284
This is a reply to #147275.
> >As it is if I click on a midi note in the Matrix I'm forced to > >listen to it's entire duration > >of the note. Is there a way to make the notes sound only while I have my mouse > >clicked and held on it? i.e. click on=note on/click off=note off. This has been on my wishlist for years. It's really annoying. Emagic, please fix this, or at least make it a preference option to stop the note when you lift the mouse button. -Dan
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From: "strobe_tallbot" <strobe_tallbot@...>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 at 11:53:56 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAM] how do I stop note durations on selection?
Message #147289
This is a reply to #147284.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "osepek" <dannyalv@a...> wrote: > > > >As it is if I click on a midi note in the Matrix I'm forced to > > >listen to it's entire duration > > >of the note. Is there a way to make the notes sound only while I have my > mouse > > >clicked and held on it? i.e. click on=note on/click off=note off. > > This has been on my wishlist for years. It's really annoying. Emagic, please fix > this, or at least make it a preference option to stop the note when you lift the > mouse button. > > -Dan Oh well. At least I can stop looking for it. I'm curious, is there any evidence that Emagic looks at this list?
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From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 at 1:49:52 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Emagic's communications
Message #147295
This is a reply to #147289.
On a fine day, 03-10-2003, strobe_tallbot wrote: >I'm curious, is there any evidence that Emagic looks at this list? Yes. Michael Haydn posts regularly here. Other Emagic employees read the list as well (or at least: used to read). And maybe, just maybe the 'smart snap' was turned into a preference in 6.3 because of the flood of complaints on this list. Still I would find it a good idea if Emagic was a bit more forthcoming with their communication towards customers. Like: "yes, we know about this bug and plan to fix it in the near future." I mean, smart snap being optional is a nice touch, but I'm seriously annoyed and worried about the huge bus that have been there for ages (or that get introduced with every new upgrade), and that seem to have no priority at Emagic at all. They're a weird bunch anyway. Recently I had to write an article on the EXS, and was investigating one of the Emagic-EXS libraries. It seemed the readme, detailing the structure of the library, that was supposed to be on the CD wasn't there at all, and thus the layout of the samples was as clear as mud (the only other 'docs' were the liner notes in the CD). I wrote Emagic, telling them I had to review their stuff, and could they please send me the missing pdf by email. Never heard back from them... I mean, if I was just Joe Average that would be strange and unsympathetic enough, but when someone's about to write a review of your product, this is outright stupid and 'bad for business', isn't it? Now I don't blame individuals -- to the contrary; Michael for instance does what he can do and his contributions are greatly appreciated -- but as a company I feel Emagic have a serious communications/attitude problem which, over the years, starts to worry me more and more. OK, I've vented enough for today :). -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra h @ k n o w a r e . n l Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/
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From: "strobe_tallbot" <strobe_tallbot@...>
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 at 3:19:47 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Emagic's communications
Message #147333
This is a reply to #147295.
> but I'm seriously > annoyed and worried about the huge bugs that have been there for ages > (or that get introduced with every new upgrade), and that seem to > have no priority at Emagic at all. Care to elaborate on the age old bugs? A concise list of well known bugs would be very useful to new users like myself (or any that you can think of off the top of your head would also be helpful). For instance after scouring the manual I've now learned (from a bb) that wait-for-note has never worked and it's non-functionality is common knowledge among Logic users. How the heck was I s'pose to know that?! btw - 'Chase Sustained Notes' is grayed in my Chase Events prefs. Does that happen to be one of these known bugs? -thanks
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From: "strobe_tallbot" <strobe_tallbot@...>
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 at 3:32:53 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAM] how do I stop note durations on selection?
Message #147335
This is a reply to #147284.
> > >As it is if I click on a midi note in the Matrix I'm forced to > > >listen to it's entire duration > > >of the note. Is there a way to make the notes sound only while I have my > mouse > > >clicked and held on it? i.e. click on=note on/click off=note off. > > This has been on my wishlist for years. It's really annoying. Emagic, please fix > this, or at least make it a preference option to stop the note when you lift the > mouse button. Actually, I just noticed that while a quick click triggers the full note duration, a very brief hold does in fact permit the note to stop when the click is released. just fyi.
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From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 at 3:15:12 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Emagic's communications
Message #147343
This is a reply to #147333.
On a fine day, 03-10-2003, strobe_tallbot wrote: >Care to elaborate on the age old bugs? A concise list of well known >bugs would be very useful to new users like myself (or any that you >can think of off the top of your head would also be helpful). For >instance after scouring the manual I've now learned (from a bb) that >wait-for-note has never worked and it's non-functionality is common >knowledge among Logic users. How the heck was I s'pose to know that?! Hey, subscribe to the LUG, religiously read everything for 4 years, and you'll be totally up to speed :-). Many of the 'bugs' aren't really bugs though, but flawed functionality. Examples are: lousy (or almost absent) grid in the sample editor, scissoring a zoomed-in sequence scrolls to the beginning of the sequence (or has that been fixed? I don't even remember...), cable-count-limit in the environment, limited macro-size in the environment, macro's only have 1 in/1 out, no meta events for most transport functions, etc. Real bugs: you can't record external controllers as track automation for midi instruments, sysex faders suck, sysex in general sucks (in the environment), on stop Logic _always_ resets CC1 and CC64 to zero (supposed to be a feature... yeah, right... -- applies to pitchbend and aftertouch as well, I think), automation data sometimes gets corrupted forcing you to open the Automation Edit list to manually delete erroneous events, you can't record the output of a transformer set to 'Sysex Mapper'. Et cetera... probably a dozen others that I can't think of right now. >btw - 'Chase Sustained Notes' is grayed in my Chase Events prefs. >Does that happen to be one of these known bugs? No idea - never tried to use the option. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra h @ k n o w a r e . n l Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/
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From: Brian Gascoigne <brian@...>
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 at 10:49:23 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Emagic's communications
Message #147388
This is a reply to #147343.
>On a fine day, 03-10-2003, strobe_tallbot wrote: > > >Care to elaborate on the age old bugs? The one that has my lid rattling 100 times a day: 1. selecting an instrument on the score page doesn't select it in the arrange, although it lights up. so if you record into it, it may go in the right place, or somewhere else entirely. 2. Merge New Recording with Selected Sequences now works again, if you have the option checked, BUT it doesn't work when you use Capture Last Take as Recording, which I use all the time, but it used to work fine. Regards Brian
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From: doubleA <doubleA@...>
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 at 5:37:08 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Emagic's communications
Message #147436
This is a reply to #147388.
>> On a fine day, 03-10-2003, strobe_tallbot wrote: >> >>> Care to elaborate on the age old bugs? For me the most important bug is in the matrix window. When you view multiple midi tracks in one matrix window and try to copy a segment, logic gives a 'cyclic error' and crashes hard. Doesn't happen all the time but enough to really drive me mad... Michel
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From: "infinite_8_monkey" <infinite_8_monkey@...>
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 at 3:00:01 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Capture last take, was Emagic's communications
Message #147456
This is a reply to #147388.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Brian Gascoigne <brian@g...> wrote: > 2. Merge New Recording with Selected Sequences now works again, if > you have the option checked, BUT it doesn't work when you use Capture > Last Take as Recording, which I use all the time, but it used to work > fine. Regards Brian Hmm, I've always wondered what capture last take does, but never managed to figure out. Since you use it all the time, can you explain how it works? Thanks- Augustus
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From: <christianobermaier@...>
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 at 5:38:52 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Capture last take
Message #147466
This is a reply to #147456.
> Hmm, I've always wondered what capture last take does How often have you heard that perfect take while you or the artist was just noodling along, while you weren't actually recording ? And then mentally kicked yourself *because* you were not recording ? Capture Last Take does just this, it puts *what* you were playing at the extact place *where* you were playing it. Everything you did since the last Play command will be truthfully placed on the current track. This works in Stop too. You can place real Program Changes with that easily and exactly, for instance. Too bad this doesn't work for audio. But wait. Looks like we can have our cake and eat it too this time. Just the way Logic is recording all the time on a MIDI track, it does so on any rec-enabled audio track. You just have to make sure that you punch into record at least once while still in Play. Anything before this point is still there and can be made visible with dragging the left corner(s) of the recorded audio region(s). Christian
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From: "John Pitcairn" <johnp@...>
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 at 6:33:10 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Capture last take
Message #147469
This is a reply to #147466.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, <christianobermaier@y...> wrote: > Just the way Logic is recording all the time on a MIDI > track, it does so on any rec-enabled audio track. You just have to > make sure that you punch into record at least once while still in > Play. Audio menu "Punch on the fly" must be checked for this to work. And it'll be recording all the time, so if you're multitracking, make sure there's plenty of disk space... Don't tell the talent you're recording, you'll get better performances ;-) John Pitcairn
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From: "infinite_8_monkey" <infinite_8_monkey@...>
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 at 1:09:24 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Capture last take
Message #147492
This is a reply to #147469.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "John Pitcairn" <johnp@r...> wrote: > Audio menu "Punch on the fly" must be checked for this to work. And > it'll be recording all the time, so if you're multitracking, make sure > there's plenty of disk space... > > Don't tell the talent you're recording, you'll get better performances ;-) > > John Pitcairn I'm always running "punch on the fly" anyway, so that's fine. I've tried capture last take before and it didn't seem to do anything; I guess that command is MIDI only? The key, then, is to punch in right at the end before stopping; if you never punch in I presume it's all lost? Additionally, you'd have to route the input objects to the outputs for monitering (or use hw monitering), but you've got to do this anyways if they want to play along without recording (btw, is this possible in PTLE? I get the impression not, and it bugs the heck out of me). Thanks for the info- Augustus
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From: Michael Haydn <mhaydn@...>
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 at 1:36:09 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Emagic's communications
Message #147498
This is a reply to #147333.
"Chase Sustained Notes" is only available if "Chase Notes" is enabled. "Chase Notes" is displayed as a note icon. Am 03.10.2003 um 22:19 schrieb strobe_tallbot: > btw - 'Chase Sustained Notes' is grayed in my Chase Events prefs. Does > that happen > to be one of these known bugs? > Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?christian obermaier?= <christianobermaier@...>
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 at 3:23:37 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Capture last take
Message #147505
This is a reply to #147492.
> I'm always running "punch on the fly" anyway, so that's fine. Great. I've seen people trying to "drop in" by the record button. With the mouse, that is... > I've tried capture last take before. I > guess that command is MIDI only? Right. > The key, then, is to punch in right > at the end before stopping; if you never punch in I presume it's all > lost? Exactly. > Additionally, you'd have to route the input objects to the > outputs for monitering Auto Input Monitoring does this for you. Christian ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk
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