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From: "strobe_tallbot" <strobe_tallbot@...>
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 at 3:18:51 PM
Subject: [GEN] Logic book recommendations
Message #145548
<subject header fixed by admin - pls use an appropriate tag as outlined in the msg footer below> What's the best book on Logic? I'm a DP user but I have a basic understanding of Logic. I've never gotten too serious about Logic mainly because I've found the manual(s) so baffling and cumbersome. There seems to be a cottage industry of 3rd party publications on the subject. I'm wondering which one is the most manual-like. I keep hoping Apple will 'suggest' to Emagic that they put out something more usable. I have the Wizoo book but found *way* too basic. Too much discussion about what digital audio is etc. -thanks
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From: Joshua Scott Emmons <skia@...>
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 at 5:34:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Logic book recommendations
Message #145552
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> What's the best book on Logic? If you want an introduction to Logic, I'm a big fan of the Apple book: "Logic 6, Professional Music Creation and Audio Production" (ISBN: 0-321-20040-3). It's a little basic, but touches on all the major aspects of creating music with Logic and works as an excellent springboard to tackle the emagic documentation. My only concern would be that, being a digital music maker already, you would find some of the material redundant. For my part, I only skimmed many chapters, but still felt the book was worth the price (US$49.99). Cheers, -Josh Emmons
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From: "strobe_tallbot" <strobe_tallbot@...>
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 at 1:09:46 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Logic book recommendations
Message #145583
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Thanks Josh. I saw a couple of reviews on that book Amazon that made me think I ought to look around a bit more, but maybe that's the best one out there. ...anyone else? I don't pay all that much attention to this list. Is there a general consensus that the Logic manual sucks, or is this just another component of the Logic learning curve? Are there any rumors or rumblings about a new manual anytime soon? -thanks
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From: "Jazz-e" <djjazze1@...>
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 at 8:20:31 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Logic book recommendations
Message #145596
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"strobe_tallbot" <strobe_tallbot@...> wrote > Thanks Josh. I saw a couple of reviews on that book Amazon that made me think I > ought to look around a bit more, but maybe that's the best one out there. ...anyone > else? > > I don't pay all that much attention to this list. Is there a general consensus that the > Logic manual sucks, or is this just another component of the Logic learning curve? > > Are there any rumors or rumblings about a new manual anytime soon? > > -thanks One thing about this manual that really sucks is that it doesn't have an index. I can't believe they don't put one in this book. Everytime I try to look for a specific thing I have to almost look through the whole book before I find it and then it usually is in the "notes" of some chapter I thought it wouldn't be in. God I hate this manual
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From: Joshua Scott Emmons <skia@...>
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 at 10:34:55 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Logic book recommendations
Message #145613
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> Thanks Josh. I saw a couple of reviews on that book Amazon that made > me think I > ought to look around a bit more, but maybe that's the best one out > there. ...anyone > else? > > I don't pay all that much attention to this list. Is there a general > consensus that the > Logic manual sucks, or is this just another component of the Logic > learning curve? I'd say that the manual is "inconvenient," but doesn't "suck" as such. It's full of a lot of very good information, all of it straight from the horse's mouth. The problem is that it's organized poorly (when it's organized at all), the language is not as natural as it could be (feels to me like it was written by a german developer and then translated into english as opposed to being written by an english technical writer), and it's spread out over, like, twelve spiral-bound books and addendums. I find the eMagic approach to documentation really useful in small doses. I thought their manuals for the ES2, EVB3, and EVD6 were very good, for example. And when I have a specific problem with Logic, if I can find the section in the manual the deals with it, I'm usually pleased with the understanding it gives me (though even this is made difficult because the table of contents and index of the manual are crap). But it's way too hard to just "read through," and this is, in my opinion, a bad way to learn Logic. Oh, and I forgot to mention in my last mail: You can't go wrong downloading the Logic FAQ from http://www.omega-art.com/logic/faq/index.htm, printing it out, and reading it over several times. It makes many of Logic's more esoteric "features" plain. Cheers, -Josh Emmons
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