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From: "Mark Cahill" <mark@...>
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 at 7:15:59 AM
Subject: Re: [LAM] About to purchase an M-Audio audiophile 2496, seeking user comments.
Message #145398
roman pirie wrote: >I have a B&W G3/350 running LAMG 5.5. I want 2 channels of quality >24bit/44.1 audio I/O. Is this card working well for you guys? What is the >verdict on the sound quality? >Thanks. Hi Roman I always have a problem matching up 24bit with onboard converters on an audio card. In my experience, having the converters mounted on the card (i.e. in the computer case) means that they are picking up so much electronic "noise" form the various components that the theoretical 24 bits of resolution are in effect probably down at 12 bits or even less before you hit the noise floor generated by the computer. Obviously, this flies in the face of the bulk of sound cards out there, but, having worked both with internal AD cards (AW8 and DSP factory) as well as external dedicated AD converters, IMHO, the difference is MAJOR. Especially if you have a quality signal path prior to your AD (good mic, good preamp, usually meaning having spent a lot of money - did you post some time ago about owning a TLM 103?9 then you owe it to yourself to be very picky about the type of AD conversion you have HTH Kind regards Mark Cahill
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From: roman pirie <romanp@...>
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 at 11:20:53 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAM] About to purchase an M-Audio audiophile 2496, seeking user comments.
Message #145416
This is a reply to #145398.
>> I have a B&W G3/350 running LAMG 5.5. I want 2 channels of quality >> 24bit/44.1 audio I/O. Is this card working well for you guys? What is the >> verdict on the sound quality? >> Thanks. > > Hi Roman > > I always have a problem matching up 24bit with onboard converters on an > audio card. In my experience, having the converters mounted on the card > (i.e. in the computer case) means that they are picking up so much > electronic "noise" form the various components that the theoretical 24 bits > of resolution are in effect probably down at 12 bits or even less before you > hit the noise floor generated by the computer. Obviously, this flies in the > face of the bulk of sound cards out there, but, having worked both with > internal AD cards (AW8 and DSP factory) as well as external dedicated AD > converters, IMHO, the difference is MAJOR. Especially if you have a quality > signal path prior to your AD (good mic, good preamp, usually meaning having > spent a lot of money - did you post some time ago about owning a TLM 103?9 > then you owe it to yourself to be very picky about the type of AD conversion > you have Well what sound card should I get? I need 2 stable channels of 24bit44.1 audio. No pre amps, stable drivers, no clicks pops etc. Is there such a thing. Bummer that I'm getting bad reviews of this card as I thought it looked ideal. I have been recommended this card. The recommendee thought that the internal converters thing wouldn't be a big factor. From what I've read the improvement from mac av will be big. Just need a 2 channel good card. Roman.
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From: Neil Johnson <nej22@...>
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 at 4:44:38 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAM] About to purchase an M-Audio audiophile 2496, seeking
Message #145420
This is a reply to #145416.
roman pirie wrote: > Well what sound card should I get? I need 2 stable channels of 24bit44.1 > audio. No pre amps, stable drivers, no clicks pops etc. Well, from my simple view of the world the Edirol products seem to do exactly what they say on the packet. Very much a case of plug-and-play: I have a UA-1A which works a treat with my MDD dual G4 1.25G machine (OSX 10.2.6). For the spec you quote you could do this over USB, so here are some USB modules that satisfy most of your specs: - M-Audio Duo - M-Audio Audiofile USB - Edirol UA-20 - Edirol UA-5 I chose Edirol after checking out their support pages. Also I have heard (on this list) that M-Audio support is not as good as Edirol, and was quite pleasantly surprised to see developers from Edirol on the CoreAudio list. YMMV. Cheers, Neil -- Neil Johnson :: Computer Laboratory :: University of Cambridge :: http://www.njohnson.co.uk http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~nej22 ---- IEE Cambridge Branch: http://www.iee-cambridge.org.uk ----
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