Everytime I back up a session to CD (using toast, simply drag and drop the folder containing both the session and the audio files), when I try to open it again from the CD the session files still points to the old location of the audio files. Say my session is in Mac HD>Songs Folder>Crazy Town When I open Logic and show info in the audio window, I see all my audio files in Mac HD::Songs Folder::Crazy Town. Good. Then I drag and drop my "Crazy Town" folder onto Toast and burn a CD. Then I insert the CD again, open the song from the CD and look at the info on the audio files. Still Mac HD::Songs Folder::Crazy Town. Shouldn't it be CDRW Player::Crazy Town or something? by the way, using mac OS 9.1 with Logic Platinum 5.5 Thanks! David. http://6ameternal.com

On Friday, May 2, 2003, at 11:31 AM, Kickin' Da Speaker wrote: > > Then I insert the CD again, open the song from the CD and look > at the info on the audio files. Still Mac HD::Songs Folder::Crazy > Town. Shouldn't it be CDRW Player::Crazy Town or something? > Until you open the song, and cause the audio to be re-found, it will always refer back to the original file location.. doesn't that make sense to you? Does to me. If you want to to find the files off the disc, create a disc image in toast, trash the folder with the data ( don't worry, you just made a copy in toast), mount the disc image with the song backup files, launch toast and mount the image, boot logic, open the song file from the disc image. It will ask where the audio files are. Select the files on the disc image. done. Save song file.. In other works, what a hassle. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. It's just the way things are.. George ________________________________________________________ My Home and Logic Audio Tips : www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com "Reet to tee to tee to tee to teeeeeeee" Frank Zappa " All our dreams can come true, if we have the courage to pursue them" Walt Disney "Be the change you want to see in the world" Mahatma Gandhi

> Then I insert the CD again, open the song from the CD and look > at the info on the audio files. Still Mac HD::Songs Folder::Crazy > Town. Shouldn't it be CDRW Player::Crazy Town or something? Mmmmm....sounds like Logic is using absolute path names (specifying the FULL path including volume name) rather than relative paths (relative to, say, the folder in which the project file is in). But of a bummer for backing up, as you've found. Not sure, but is there an option somewhere to change this? Or perhaps in past OSes it was faster to use absolute rather than relative? I dunno, I'm new to Macs, but that's what it sounds like. Hope this helps, Neil -- Neil Johnson :: Computer Laboratory :: University of Cambridge :: http://www.njohnson.co.uk http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~nej22 ---- IEE Cambridge Branch: http://www.iee-cambridge.org.uk ----

> Until you open the song, and cause the audio to be re-found, it will > always refer back to the original file location.. Actually that's precisely the problem: when I open the song, it doesn't cause the audio to be re-found, it simply uses whatever is at the old location. > trash the folder with the data ( > don't worry, you just made a copy in toast)... Well the whole point of making a back-up is to have two copies of the same thing, one on a CD, one on my hard drive. If I have to trah the Hard Drive copy to access the one that is on the CD, it kinda defeats the purpose. What if the CD can't be read after all? I'm screwed. Doesn't make ANY sense to me. David. http://mp3.com/6ameternal

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Kickin' Da Speaker " <david@6...> wrote: > Everytime I back up a session to CD (using toast, simply drag > and drop the folder containing both the session and the audio > files), when I try to open it again from the CD the session files > still points to the old location of the audio files. > Then I insert the CD again, open the song from the CD and look > at the info on the audio files. Still Mac HD::Songs Folder::Crazy > Town. Shouldn't it be CDRW Player::Crazy Town or something? Maybe Logic won't fix the links to the files when the song file is "read only"? You could try copying the songs back onto your hard drive into a test folder, making all the files not read only, and see if Logic reassociates things any better...

On Friday, May 2, 2003, at 02:24 PM, Kickin' Da Speaker wrote: >> trash the folder with the data ( >> don't worry, you just made a copy in toast)... > > Well the whole point of making a back-up is to have two copies > of the same thing, one on a CD, one on my hard drive. If I have to > trah the Hard Drive copy to access the one that is on the CD, it > kinda defeats the purpose. What if the CD can't be read after all? > I'm screwed. > > Doesn't make ANY sense to me. > Hi, I had assumed that the point of the matter was to create a backup.. I didn't understand that you wanted to get your Logic song file to see the files on your CD backup, rather than the files on you hard drive. So, to answer your original question, no. Logic doesn't work like that. The associations created when you made the song file are written into the file itself. Opening a copy of the song will look for the audio in the originally stored drive. If you opened the song after having moved the audio files, Logic will ask where they are located. George ________________________________________________________ My Home and Logic Audio Tips : www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com "Reet to tee to tee to tee to teeeeeeee" Frank Zappa " All our dreams can come true, if we have the courage to pursue them" Walt Disney "Be the change you want to see in the world" Mahatma Gandhi

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Kickin' Da Speaker " <david@6...> wrote: > What if the CD can't be read after all? > I'm screwed. If Toast's post-burn verification succeeded, the CD is a bit-for-bit copy. If you want to really really verify you can work with the files, copy the song & audio files from the CD to a new folder on your HD, rename the original audio files folder on your HD, then open the newly-copied song. Logic will ask you to locate the "missing" audio files - point it at the newly copied ones. Play. John Pitcairn ----------------------------------------------------------------- Got midi fader/knob hardware? Want to control & automate Logic? Fadermapper environment demo: http://www.revolver.co.nz/fadermapper/ -----------------------------------------------------------------

> Kickin' Da Speaker wrote: > > What if the CD can't be read after all? George Leger III wrote: > I had assumed that the point of the matter was to create a backup.. I think this is fine example of how you *should* do a backup! Once the backup is made, check to make sure the backup has been correctly made, rather than wait until you need the backup, in which case it is usually too late to do anything about it. That's why I _always_ verify a backup against the original just to be safe. It would seem, though, that Logic is trying its best to mangle the situation. Imagine, you backup a project to CDR, then one day your hard drive goes pop. But no to worry, as you reach for your backup CD attempt to restore from CD, but then find that that all important sample that made the track is hosed (and yet when you loaded the song off the CD it seemed ok at the time...). I can almost hear the gnashing of teeth and screams of agony as I type this..... I've been caught out once, and that was once too many :-( Neil -- Neil Johnson :: Computer Laboratory :: University of Cambridge :: http://www.njohnson.co.uk http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~nej22 ---- IEE Cambridge Branch: http://www.iee-cambridge.org.uk ----