Hi List, I have a Proteus 1 and last night I found that in the v5 multisets a multi-instrument for the Pro 1 was made. The maker has it set up for 2 banks, one for sounds 0-127, the second for sounds 128-191. Here is the catch though: the Pro1 doesn't respond to the second bank changes. It still selects the first bank, for example even if I select sound 128, the Proteus changes to sound 0. I'm not surprised by the Proteus behavior since I read in the manual that the Pro1 cannot "normally" access program change numbers over 127 and that you can "re-map" the sounds using the MASTER MENU of the Proteus, but you can only assign 127 different sounds to the 127 program change numbers. (You know, like the Proteus 1 was made before "new" MIDI banks were made?) Ok, so providing that my rambling above makes sense to somebody here are my actual questions: 1) Is there a way in the Environment to "add" value to the program change and make the Proteus 1 select those 128-191 patches? 2) If not then why was does the multiset for the Pro1 even include the second bank? Is it just for my ease of use if I did want to remap some of the sounds inside the Pro1? I suspect that question 1 can't be done, but then again, the Pro 1 manual later says that "Banks may be requested using the preset request command and the appropriate preset code listed below" And also maybe the Environment gurus out there can help a novice like me. Well, my long post is over now...hope I didn't forget anything ... and hope I was clear in what I am looking to do. Regards, Ken kirk www.waxthedecks.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: XOtherJesusx@... [mailto:XOtherJesusx@...] > The maker has it set up for 2 banks, one for sounds 0-127, > the second for > sounds 128-191. Hi Ken, I remember accessing all Poteus 1 sounds from Logic 3.6 on Mac many years ago. I haven't used my Proteus 1 since then but if my memory serves me well it was a certain environment I donwloaded somewhere. Have you been checking out www.swiftkick.com ? Best wishes Per Boysen ------------- www.boysen.se www.looproom.com <-- 1st Swedish Looping Festival

On a fine day, 28-04-2003, XOtherJesusx@... wrote: >1) Is there a way in the Environment to "add" value to the program change and >make the Proteus 1 select those 128-191 patches? > >2) If not then why was does the multiset for the Pro1 even include the second >bank? >Is it just for my ease of use if I did want to remap some of the sounds >inside the Pro1? > >I suspect that question 1 can't be done, but then again, the Pro 1 manual >later says that "Banks may be requested using the preset request command and >the appropriate preset code listed below" I don't know the Proteus at all, so this is just a wild guess, but it sounds as if the "preset code listed below" _is_ precisely some sort of bank-change command or something which you'd have to use to access prg 128 and up. Would it be possible to post this "preset request..." bit of your Proteus manual? That way some of us might be able to make a more informed guess as to what you should do. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

XOtherJesusx@... writes: >1) Is there a way in the Environment to "add" value to >the program change and make the Proteus 1 select >those 128-191 patches? The old Proteii don't support bank shifting, but you can indeed use Sysex to access patches above 127. There is an environment at <www.swiftkick.com> that does this. From a user perspective, banks are still accessed the normal way (through a multi-instrument) but there are some transformers and stuff behind the scenes doing all the conversion. I've been using it for about 9 years now. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

At 10:30 AM -0400 4/28/03, f-erenc szabo wrote: >There is an environment at <www.swiftkick.com> that >does this. http://www.swiftkick.com/lugenv/synth/proteus.zip The are several songs in there with environments for bank switching on the old proteuses (proteii, proteaux, ...) Len www.Swiftkick.com