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From: Urs Heckmann <urs@...>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 at 7:44:34 AM
Subject: [LUG] [LAM] Fishfillets AudioUnits
Message #136450
Hi list, those incredible freeware dynamics plugins by digitalfishphones are now available as AUs. http://www.digitalfishphones.com/main.php?item=2&subItem=5 Give your stuff additional bite! Hope you like them 8-) ;) Urs urs heckmann urs@... www.u-he.com Why I create audio plugins instead of using them? Here's the answer: www.u-he.com/music/
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From: "bob_vandiver" <bobv@...>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 at 11:14:57 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAM] Fishfillets AudioUnits
Message #136463
This is a reply to #136450.
> those incredible freeware dynamics plugins by digitalfishphones are now > available as AUs. > > http://www.digitalfishphones.com/main.php?item=2&subItem=5 > > Give your stuff additional bite! > > Hope you like them 8-) > > ;) Urs Ausgeszeichnet! Hey Urs, while you have our attention, I will grab yours with an AU question.... Does the AU specification allow a sequencer/host application to call AU plugins (instruments and effects) for specific patches? TIA, Bob Vandiver
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From: Federico Ciapi <federico.ciapi@...>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 at 12:57:37 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAM] Fishfillets AudioUnits
Message #136471
This is a reply to #136450.
> those incredible freeware dynamics plugins by digitalfishphones are now > available as AUs. > > http://www.digitalfishphones.com/main.php?item=2&subItem=5 > > Give your stuff additional bite! > > Hope you like them 8-) I really like the compressor! It has strong character, try it on drums
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From: Urs Heckmann <urs@...>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 at 1:52:07 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAM] Fishfillets AudioUnits
Message #136475
This is a reply to #136463.
Am Freitag, 04.04.03, um 19:14 Uhr (Europe/Berlin) schrieb bob_vandiver: > > Hey Urs, while you have our attention, I will grab yours with an AU > question.... > > Does the AU specification allow a sequencer/host application to call > AU plugins (instruments and effects) for specific patches? What exactly do you mean by that? Logic saves AU patches with song data... Settings can be saved to disc and restored... However, unlike VST the specs don't allow for editing multiple presets inside the plugin itself. But unlike VST the data format is consistent so hosts can add features like undo, edit/compare or settings managers, i.e. for program change. (Uhm, one should tell host developers about this...) Cheers, ;) Urs
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From: "bob_vandiver" <bobv@...>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 at 3:05:16 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAM] Fishfillets AudioUnits
Message #136479
This is a reply to #136475.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Urs Heckmann <urs@u...> wrote: > > Am Freitag, 04.04.03, um 19:14 Uhr (Europe/Berlin) schrieb bob_vandiver: > > > > Hey Urs, while you have our attention, I will grab yours with an AU > > question.... > > > > Does the AU specification allow a sequencer/host application to call > > AU plugins (instruments and effects) for specific patches? > > What exactly do you mean by that? Well, for example, say you have a song with a reverb AU plugin on it. In Verse 1 you want this reverb to use the "ambient bathroom" preset. The last chorus you would like it to switch to the "Deep canyon" preset. OR you have a sensitive love song that includes the Flatulator VSTi. The first chorus needs the "Cabbage and beans" preset and midway through the chorus you want the "Buzz saw on steroids" sound. VST in Logic does not let you do this, only lets you increment or decrement patches. Does AU let you ask for "bank 12, patch 14," for example? Bob Vandiver
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From: Urs Heckmann <urs@...>
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 at 3:01:36 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAM] Fishfillets AudioUnits
Message #136503
This is a reply to #136479.
> Does AU let you ask for "bank 12, patch 14," for example? > Bob, this has nothing to do with the plugin specs. - It has to be managed by the host itself. There has never been a consistent way of doing this without problems. For instance, some VSTi react on Program Changes, but a VST (or AU) being inserted on an audio track can't, because there's no MIDI. Nonetheless, while VST patch handling looks convenient for users (saving patches, banks etc.), it is a pain for hosts. AU makes it very simple for hosts to deal with preset data (only one consistent xml-based settings format), so hosts are supposed to offer convenient methods for handling them within a song etc. I hope that Emagic will realize this. I don't know if there's a possibility for a workaround to incorporate preset changes by parameter automation. However, you could put in more than one instance of the plugin and automate bypass... Cheers, ;) Urs urs heckmann urs@... www.u-he.com
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