Hi folks, I wonder if anyone has had the same experience. I rang MOTU re: some sync questions with my current gear (lots of MOTU h/w) and Logic. After finding out that the best sync I can get between two setups is MTC from laptop to desktop I was also assailed with a sales pitch for DP - pointing out the sample inaccuracies and the resolution of logic being inferior to DP. I wonder to myself - if Emagic are owned by Apple wouldn't it be more likely that on an application level that Emagic would have a better crack at a 'perfect fit' with OSX and it's promised bounty? anyone help me feel better about the 'exactitude' and general excellence of Logic's timing in comparison to DP? I use Logic OSX - motu 896, motu 2408II*2, motu AV timepiece, MOTU fastlane.... Many thanks Anthony

>Hi folks, > >I wonder if anyone has had the same experience. I rang MOTU re: some sync >questions with my current gear (lots of MOTU h/w) and Logic. > >After finding out that the best sync I can get between two setups is MTC >from laptop to desktop I was also assailed with a sales pitch for DP - >pointing out the sample inaccuracies and the resolution of logic being >inferior to DP. They WOULD say that, wouldn't they? >I wonder to myself - if Emagic are owned by Apple wouldn't it be more likely >that on an application level that Emagic would have a better crack at a >'perfect fit' with OSX and it's promised bounty? Not necessarily. <snipped by admin> they don't have all kinds of hidden secret sub-OS level calls, especially when it comes to CoreAudio and CoreMIDI. These APIs are freely available to any developer to use however they like. DP is a fine application and so is Logic. I would not trust either company to give me reasons why NOT to buy the competitor's product. >anyone help me feel better about the 'exactitude' and general excellence of >Logic's timing in comparison to DP? >I use Logic OSX - motu 896, motu 2408II*2, motu AV timepiece, MOTU >fastlane.... It depends completely on what you are doing with it. I was very skeptical of Logic's "sample accurate" sync for VSTi's when I first started using it, but at this point i just use the arrange window to trim loops at beat divisions without even opening the sound file. In regard to MIDI timing, it seems generally fine and I use a crappy MidiSport 2x2 which offers no timestamping capabilities. I'm not sure if Logic supports MOTU MIDI timestamping or not, but I've heard good things about the Emagic timestamping MIDI devices like the AMT. Anyway I know just as many people who use DP and swear it kicks Logic's butt as I know people who use Logic and say DP sucks. So my guess is they are both competely fine and it's just a matter of personal preference. I use Logic and have never once had a problem with timing. josh

On 1/4/03 3:41 pm, Anthony Mullen wrote: > After finding out that the best sync I can get between two setups is MTC > from laptop to desktop I was also assailed with a sales pitch for DP - > pointing out the sample inaccuracies and the resolution of logic being > inferior to DP. > Well - in which case, we shouldn't mention that DP has a soft synth timing resolution of about 11ms at best then. Or the shocking problems I've had with MTP-AVs not resolving to timecode properly. That's not to say that Logic is flawless in all these respects (far from it in some respects) - but certainly the soft synth timing in Logic is _far_ superior to DP. -- The best of times to you all... Pants