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From: "Scott L. Holmes" <slholmes@...>
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 at 11:01:59 AM
Subject: [GEN]: Environment Object Needed.
Message #136088
Using Logic Plat 4.81 Anybody got a quick and dirty MIDI Activity indicator light? I need a button that lights when a note goes on, stays lit until the last note goes off. I know enough to kludge one together but I was hoping someone had a real nice looking reliable one. I've looked around for a while but haven't spotted any thing like this in the Environment tool kit - and well frankly searching the archives here is a bit daunting. Thanks in advance.
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From: Len Sasso <Len@...>
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 at 2:08:32 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN]: Environment Object Needed.
Message #136094
This is a reply to #136088.
>Using Logic Plat 4.81 > >Anybody got a quick and dirty MIDI Activity indicator light? I need >a button that lights when a note goes on, stays lit until the last >note goes off. I know enough to kludge one together but I was >hoping someone had a real nice looking reliable one. > >I've looked around for a while but haven't spotted any thing like >this in the Environment tool kit - and well frankly searching the >archives here is a bit daunting. > >Thanks in advance. How about the LED Meter Bridge - Tools pg 3. It may be more than you want, but it's cute. Len www.Swiftkick.com
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From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 at 2:05:44 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN]: Environment Object Needed.
Message #136110
This is a reply to #136088.
On a fine day, 28-03-2003, Scott L. Holmes wrote: >Anybody got a quick and dirty MIDI Activity indicator light? I'll send one in private mail... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com
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From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 at 7:10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN]: Environment Object Needed.
Message #136112
This is a reply to #136110.
On a fine day, 29-03-2003, Hendrik Jan Veenstra wrote: >On a fine day, 28-03-2003, Scott L. Holmes wrote: > >>Anybody got a quick and dirty MIDI Activity indicator light? > >I'll send one in private mail... ... which I indeed tried to do. However, my mail bounced with the following message: <slholmes@...>: host mail.polyphonicstudios.com[64.127.146.1] said: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) So, Scott, do you know what's up, or have another address I can send the patch to? -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com
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From: "Scott L. Holmes" <slholmes@...>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 at 7:15:18 AM
Subject: Re: [GEN]: Environment Object Needed.
Message #136177
This is a reply to #136112.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> wrote: > ... which I indeed tried to do. However, my mail bounced with the > following message: > Yes, very sorry about that. I'll check my profile. This yahoo profile apparently has a very old email - I haven't posted to the LUG is years. I appreciate the effort, however. What I arrived at is based on many different trials and errors. Essentially, I got a button that listens for a 1 or 0 on Controller 86. Note ons and note offs get converted to Controller 86 using two transformers. Now, no matter what settings I tried, I always got a bad delay and the LED would sporadically miss some notes on (I'm testing with a keyboard object and clicking really fast). I looked at the indicator for the GM Mixer and noticed a delay - which I thought to be a good idea. Well, I put a delay line in front and without alteration, the LED started behaving correctly. Must be something about the delay line that ensures that all events are processed in the correct order. Maybe Len can explain why just converting Note messages to Controller messages has such a sluggish response. Here's a 4.8 (PC) song that has my version. http://www.polyphonicstudios.net/lug/midiled.lso Cheers! Scott
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From: "Scott L. Holmes" <slholmes@...>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 at 7:18:07 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN]: Environment Object Needed.
Message #136178
This is a reply to #136094.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Len Sasso <Len@S...> wrote: > How about the LED Meter Bridge - Tools pg 3. It may be more than you > want, but it's cute. Thanks, Len, yes it is much more than I want. I did learn alot studying exactly that, though. Thanks. Please see my results in my reply to Hendrik Jan Veenstra. Cheers! Scott
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From: Len Sasso <Len@...>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 at 9:11:30 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: [GEN]: Environment Object Needed.
Message #136182
This is a reply to #136177.
At 1:15 PM +0000 3/31/03, Scott L. Holmes wrote: >What I arrived at is based on many different trials and errors. >Essentially, I got a button that listens for a 1 or 0 on Controller >86. Note ons and note offs get converted to Controller 86 using two >transformers. Now, no matter what settings I tried, I always got a >bad delay and the LED would sporadically miss some notes on (I'm >testing with a keyboard object and clicking really fast). > >I looked at the indicator for the GM Mixer and noticed a delay - >which I thought to be a good idea. Well, I put a delay line in >front and without alteration, the LED started behaving correctly. >Must be something about the delay line that ensures that all events >are processed in the correct order. > >Maybe Len can explain why just converting Note messages to >Controller messages has such a sluggish response. For me, the delay has no effect - the LED flashes with no noticeable lag with or without the delay line in there. That was true using your onscreen keyboard as well as incoming MIDI. So I guess it might have something to do with the version of Logic or platform (I'm running 6 in OS X at the moment). Len www.Swiftkick.com
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From: "Scott L. Holmes" <holmes-scott@...>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 at 10:38:40 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN]: Environment Object Needed.
Message #136186
This is a reply to #136182.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Len Sasso <Len@S...> wrote: > For me, the delay has no effect - the LED flashes with no noticeable > lag with or without the delay line in there. That was true using your > onscreen keyboard as well as incoming MIDI. So I guess it might have > something to do with the version of Logic or platform (I'm running 6 > in OS X at the moment). Yes, I suspected as much. For the record, I'm using: Logic Audio Platinum 4.8.1 for Windows (LAW). Plug-ins from your toolkit exhibit this behavior on my computer: IBM ThinkPad T21. Yike! Don't ask, but I just transfered the harddrive from the T21 to an IBM Thinkpad T22 and the behavior I described disappeared. Hopefully that is the end of the that. I really appreciate you checking for me. Cheers! Scott
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From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 at 12:47:41 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: [GEN]: Environment Object Needed.
Message #136193
This is a reply to #136177.
On a fine day, 31-03-2003, Scott L. Holmes wrote: >--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> >wrote: >> ... which I indeed tried to do. However, my mail bounced with the >> following message: >> > >Yes, very sorry about that. I'll check my profile. This yahoo >profile apparently has a very old email - I haven't posted to the >LUG is years. Uhm, here's the easy way out: I've put it up on my website in the Logic section. It's called voicecounter and actually contains 2 versions of the same patch: one counts the number of notes being held, and the other simply turns on a button as soon as the voicecount is non-zero. So no need for email -- just download it yourself... It's here: http://www.omega-art.com/logic/index.html#voicecount >What I arrived at is based on many different trials and errors. >Essentially, I got a button that listens for a 1 or 0 on Controller >86. Note ons and note offs get converted to Controller 86 using two >transformers. Now, no matter what settings I tried, I always got a >bad delay and the LED would sporadically miss some notes on (I'm >testing with a keyboard object and clicking really fast). No idea what the problem is without looking at the actual patch. You might want to give mine a try and see if it works any better. >Maybe Len can explain why just converting Note messages to >Controller messages has such a sluggish response. I never noticed such sluggishness. But then, I'm a slow player :-). >Here's a 4.8 (PC) song that has my version. > >http://www.polyphonicstudios.net/lug/midiled.lso "Netscape's network connection was refused..." I might try again later, but am rather busy at the moment... So for now you might want to try my version first... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com
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From: "Scott L. Holmes" <holmes-scott@...>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 at 3:10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN]: Environment Object Needed.
Message #136207
This is a reply to #136193.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> wrote: > to try my version first... Hendrik, Thanks, so much for taking the trouble to post this. I have downloaded and got it running in my computer which is quite happy. I like the idea very much and I'm pretty sure I need to know how many voices I got for this application I'm working on so this was doubly good. Cheers! Scott
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From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 at 11:51:03 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN]: Environment Object Needed.
Message #136235
This is a reply to #136207.
On a fine day, 31-03-2003, Scott L. Holmes wrote: >--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> >wrote: > > to try my version first... > >Thanks, so much for taking the trouble to post this. You're welcome. And it was hardly any trouble -- some other patch of mine contained this exact piece of circuitry, so I just ripped it out, macro'ized it and that's all. >I have downloaded and got it running in my computer which is quite happy. >I like the idea very much and I'm pretty sure I need to know how >many voices I got for this application I'm working on so this was >doubly good. Great, glad you like it... And no delay-problems with this one? -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/
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From: "Scott L. Holmes" <holmes-scott@...>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 at 7:32:35 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN]: Environment Object Needed.
Message #136256
This is a reply to #136235.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> wrote: > Great, glad you like it... And no delay-problems with this one? Weird delay problem. I thought it was my older laptop because moving the hard drive to a better laptop seemed to get rid of the delay. But then last night I spent an hour on the Train trying to get rid of the delay again. I got out of Logic and then went back in and the delay was gone. Weird. I've worked on it quite alot since then and no delay. I've got no idea what was causing it. I decided to use your example basically as is because it only turns the LED off when zero notes are held down which is exactly what I described in my first post on the subject. Basically, I wanted to view the incoming notes from a drum machine - because I don't really have control over how the notes were originally recorded, I wanted the indicator to be robust enough to handle it all. So Thanks! Cheers! Scott
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From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 at 8:59:14 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN]: Environment Object Needed.
Message #136265
This is a reply to #136256.
On a fine day, 01-04-2003, Scott L. Holmes wrote: >--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> >wrote: >> Great, glad you like it... And no delay-problems with this one? > >Weird delay problem. I thought it was my older laptop because >moving the hard drive to a better laptop seemed to get rid of the >delay. But then last night I spent an hour on the Train trying to >get rid of the delay again. I got out of Logic and then went back >in and the delay was gone. Weird. I've worked on it quite alot >since then and no delay. I've got no idea what was causing it. ? Hmpff.. weird indeed... >I decided to use your example basically as is because it only turns >the LED off when zero notes are held down which is exactly what I >described in my first post on the subject. > >Basically, I wanted to view the incoming notes from a drum machine - >because I don't really have control over how the notes were >originally recorded, I wanted the indicator to be robust enough to >handle it all. So Thanks! You're welcome.... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/
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