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I have been having a weird problem with my logic control. Every time I slide the master fader up the fader slides back down. Sometimes it doesn¹t happen right away but usually within 10 seconds. If I try to raise the fader by clicking on it from within logic¹s environment it drops right away to 0. Anyone ever have this problem? ...Alex Mac G4 600MHz 512 MB RAM LAMP Mac OSX Motu MTPAV USB

At 11:35 Uhr -0500 03.03.2003, xtreammusic wrote: >I have been having a weird problem with my logic control. Every time I slide >the master fader up the fader slides back down. Sometimes it doesn't happen >right away but usually within 10 seconds. If I try to raise the fader by >clicking on it from within logic's environment it drops right away to 0. >Anyone ever have this problem? Do you have a Master Volume object in the Environment? -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

> At 11:35 Uhr -0500 03.03.2003, xtreammusic wrote: >> I have been having a weird problem with my logic control. Every time I slide >> the master fader up the fader slides back down. Sometimes it doesn't happen >> right away but usually within 10 seconds. If I try to raise the fader by >> clicking on it from within logic's environment it drops right away to 0. >> Anyone ever have this problem? On 3/3/03 1:21 PM, "Michael Haydn" <mhaydn@...> wrote: > Do you have a Master Volume object in the Environment? Yes. Alex

At 16:48 Uhr -0500 04.03.2003, xtreammusic wrote: > >> I have been having a weird problem with my logic control. Every >time I slide > >> the master fader up the fader slides back down. Sometimes it >doesn't happen > >> right away but usually within 10 seconds. If I try to raise the fader by > >> clicking on it from within logic's environment it drops right away to 0. > >> Anyone ever have this problem? > >On 3/3/03 1:21 PM, "Michael Haydn" <mhaydn@...> wrote: > > Do you have a Master Volume object in the Environment? > >Yes. Does the problem occur with all songs, or only certain ones? -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

At 16:48 Uhr -0500 04.03.2003, xtreammusic wrote: >>>> I have been having a weird problem with my logic control. Every time I >>>> slide the master fader up the fader slides back down. Sometimes it >>>> doesn't happen right away but usually within 10 seconds. If I try to raise >>>> the fader by clicking on it from within logic's environment it drops right >>>> away to 0.Anyone ever have this problem? On 3/5/03 0:58, "Michael Haydn" <mhaydn@...> wrote: >>> Do you have a Master Volume object in the Environment? >> Yes. On 3/3/03 1:21 PM, "Michael Haydn" <mhaydn@...> wrote: > Does the problem occur with all songs, or only certain ones? Are you sure you do not have a midi track that is controlling your master fader ! Best regards Cyril Blanc France

>>> Do you have a Master Volume object in the Environment? >> >> Yes. > > Does the problem occur with all songs, or only certain ones? > All songs. I even started with a default autoload. and get the same thing. Also when the fader drops there in no activity on my MTPAV USB. The fader goes down without any MIDI signal. I believe something within the logic control is telling it to drop the fader. Wierd huh.

> On 3/5/03 0:58, "Michael Haydn" <mhaydn@...> wrote: >>>> Do you have a Master Volume object in the Environment? > >>> Yes. > > On 3/3/03 1:21 PM, "Michael Haydn" <mhaydn@...> wrote: >> Does the problem occur with all songs, or only certain ones? On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 09:31 PM, Cyril Blanc wrote: > Are you sure you do not have a midi track that is controlling your > master fader ! > No I'm sure. What is happening is similar to if your logic control was on but logic was not launched. All the faders would be down by default. If you slide any fader up it automatically drops back down. The problem is that is what is happening to me when logic IS launched. But only on the master fader. ...Alex

> >>> Do you have a Master Volume object in the Environment? > >> > >> Yes. > > > > Does the problem occur with all songs, or only certain ones? > > > > All songs. I even started with a default autoload. and get the same > thing. Also when the fader drops there in no activity on my MTPAV USB. > The fader goes down without any MIDI signal. I believe something within > the logic control is telling it to drop the fader. Wierd huh. Are you sure you have a master fader present? It is *not* one of the main soundcard output faders ( o/p's 1/2 3/4 5/6 7/8). I made the same mistake with my Gina card. I thought that the LC master fader was supposed to control the Gina 1/2 outs fader. When I added the master fader object to the environment the LC master fader then worked as it should. Hector.

> No I'm sure. What is happening is similar to if your logic control >was > on but logic was not launched. All the faders would be down by >default. > If you slide any fader up it automatically drops back down. The > problem is that is what is happening to me when logic IS launched. >But > only on the master fader. > > ...Alex Here's a thought. Insert a monitor between your sequencer out and the port assigned to the Logic control. See if any interesting messages go out just before the fader drops. Bob Vandiver

At 22:28 Uhr -0500 04.03.2003, xtreammusic wrote: >All songs. I even started with a default autoload. and get the same >thing. Also when the fader drops there in no activity on my MTPAV USB. >The fader goes down without any MIDI signal. I believe something within >the logic control is telling it to drop the fader. Wierd huh. Although I'm not sure if this might help, please * rebuild defaults * rewrite the firmware. Open the Control Surfaces Setup window, select the LC and click the "Write Firmware" button. If this does not help, please contact your Emagic distributor. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 04:04 PM, bob_vandiver wrote: >> No I'm sure. What is happening is similar to if your logic control >> was >> on but logic was not launched. All the faders would be down by >> default. >> If you slide any fader up it automatically drops back down. The >> problem is that is what is happening to me when logic IS launched. >> But >> only on the master fader. >> >> ...Alex Ok I've done some tests and here are the results: If the logic control is off and LAMP is launched everything is fine. The master fader doesn't move unexpectedly. If the logic control is on when LAMP is launched the master fader in the environment keeps dropping to 0 and the slider goes down. I deleted my midi setup in OSX and reinstalled. That did not help. I installed LAMP6 and with the default autoload the problem still happened. I reloaded the firmware on the logic control. I even reset my MTPAV USB to factory defaults. No luck. No matter what I try nothing works. I think my logic control may be defective. The thing is, that this problem did not start happening until a few days after I go it. For a few days in the beginning everything was fine. Michael Hayden, tell me doctor what is your prognosis. I don't know what else to do. ...Alex

On 3/5/03 22:04, "bob_vandiver" <bobv@...> wrote: >> No I'm sure. What is happening is similar to if your logic control >> was >> on but logic was not launched. All the faders would be down by >> default. >> If you slide any fader up it automatically drops back down. The >> problem is that is what is happening to me when logic IS launched. >> But >> only on the master fader. >> >> ...Alex > > Here's a thought. Insert a monitor between your sequencer out and the > port assigned to the Logic control. See if any interesting messages > go out just before the fader drops. > > Bob Vandiver I manage to have the same problem yesterday loading two songs in memory. I quit and everything whent back OK Best regards Cyril Blanc France

At 20:35 Uhr -0500 05.03.2003, xtreammusic wrote: >Ok I've done some tests and here are the results: If the logic control >is off and LAMP is launched everything is fine. The master fader >doesn't move unexpectedly. If the logic control is on when LAMP is >launched the master fader in the environment keeps dropping to 0 and >the slider goes down. I deleted my midi setup in OSX and reinstalled. >That did not help. I installed LAMP6 and with the default autoload the >problem still happened. I reloaded the firmware on the logic control. I >even reset my MTPAV USB to factory defaults. No luck. No matter what I >try nothing works. I think my logic control may be defective. The thing >is, that this problem did not start happening until a few days after I >go it. For a few days in the beginning everything was fine. Michael >Hayden, tell me doctor what is your prognosis. I don't know what else >to do. When the fader goes to zero, can you see any MIDI out activity at the MTP? If yes, the problem is within Logic. If no, it seems to be a firmware problem. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

> No I'm sure. What is happening is similar to if your logic control was > on but logic was not launched. All the faders would be down by default. > If you slide any fader up it automatically drops back down. The > problem is that is what is happening to me when logic IS launched. > But only on the master fader. Try to start logic with a complete blank auto load only with a connection with your LC. All other midi connections have to be gone. (also connections with hardware cards ) If there is a problem, then it is your LC or, what I had in the past with my yamaha promix, there was something wrong with my computer keyboard and my master fader always dropped down.... . Other possibility is, to find another computer, install logic, connect the LC and try again. If the same problem is there again, go back with your LC to change or fix that hardware problem. By the way , I love my LC. it's doing the job very intuitively, thanks to emagic..

> When the fader goes to zero, can you see any MIDI out activity at the MTP? > If yes, the problem is within Logic. > If no, it seems to be a firmware problem. Thanks for your reply. I hope I did not confuse you when I said 0. I did not mean 0db I meant off (all the way down). Sometime the fader drops and there is activity other times it drops and there is no activity. I disconnected the USB of the MTP from the computer and I still have the same problem. I Just spoke to support and they advised me to trash my logic control preferences. I will try that and let you know what happens. ...Alex

> there was something wrong with my > computer keyboard and my master fader always dropped down.... . After speaking to support and with the help of you guys out there I was able to solve the fader problem. It turns out that it was a USB issue. My MTPAV USB was plugged into a USB hub along with a mouse, USB cdrom, scanner, printer, logic key, and a keyboard. Once I started removing devices from the hub the fader drops started happening less often. Finally now I have the MTPAV plugged directly into the computer and all is fine. I may need to update the MTP ROM. Right now I'm at 2.0.0. I think the new version is 2.0.1. Is there anyone with the same setup not having problems with a hub. Please let me know. Thanks to everyone for their help, Alex