> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid11 Marquee - cha cha! I want it! John Pitcairn >> ---------------------------- Isn't the Marquee tool just another name to what Pro Tool users have had for years? (Yes I know that the Marquee can do amazing things in regards to using the Loop function) Don't get me wrong... I'm sticking with Logic. Been using it for a long, long time, but I really wish they would get ahead of the game instead of playing catch-up with PT. I'm still bummed that time stretch in arrange is not coming with 6.0 ken kirk www.waxthedecks.com

Hi, > > http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid11 I checked this out and it looks good. I was able to watch this on line. You need real player though. To me, the most exciting new features were... 1. Track Grouping 2. Off-line Bounce 3. MP3 4. Project Manager 5. the new Channel EQ's analyzer. (Anakyzer is great) Now I have aquestion. He was using OSX and he had this Altiverb. Do you know who makes this? It sounded pretty good eventhough he was just testing it. Anyone? Yavuz AKYAZICI Guitar Player http://yavuzmusic.com Logic Setup: Ti-Book 1GHZ/1GIG RAM Logic 5.5 EXS24 Kontakt Logic Control MOTU 896 Focusrite Octo-Pre 2 X Lacie 120Gb D2 Firewire Drive (Rack-mounted)

I must say I was VERY impressed by the Marquee tool and I also liked the functionality of the channel EQ with its onboard analyzer. Anyways, even if Phil J. stopped the freeze process and the file was allready frozen (up to the point where he pressed stop) - did anybody else wonder about why a looped file would need to be frozen all over the song as well? Shouldn't it be just enough to freeze the loop itself? Sascha

Am Dienstag, 04.02.03, um 17:34 Uhr (Europe/Berlin) schrieb Sascha Franck: > I must say I was VERY impressed by the Marquee tool and I also liked > the functionality of the channel EQ with its onboard analyzer. > Anyways, even if Phil J. stopped the freeze process and the file was > allready frozen (up to the point where he pressed stop) - did anybody > else wonder about why a looped file would need to be frozen all over the > song as well? Shouldn't it be just enough to freeze the loop itself? It must be. If you have a reverb in the chain for instance with a tail of about 5 seconds and you suddenly have the switch from "frozen" to "processed", you'd miss those 5 seconds of previously played notes because they wouldn't be played. However, if you only need the freeze inside a loop for the time that this loop is valid during editing with _no_ previously occurring audio, it might be useful to have a regional freeze. Maybe in 6.1? Cheers, ;) Urs urs heckmann urs@... www.u-he.com

"Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...> writes: > I must say I was VERY impressed by the Marquee tool and I also liked the > functionality of the channel EQ with its onboard analyzer. Yeah, I can't wait to get my hands on the eq/analyzer combo. Very handy. > Anyways, even if Phil J. stopped the freeze process and the file was > allready frozen (up to the point where he pressed stop) - did anybody else > wonder about why a looped file would need to be frozen all over the song as > well? Shouldn't it be just enough to freeze the loop itself? I believe the point of stopping the freeze early would be to loop the segment that you just froze. Josh -- -- String Theory -- http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi -- String Theory's Anhedonia CD/LP available at finer music stores worldwide

> Anyways, even if Phil J. stopped the freeze process and the file was > allready frozen (up to the point where he pressed stop) - did anybody else > wonder about why a looped file would need to be frozen all over the song as > well? Shouldn't it be just enough to freeze the loop itself? I was going to ask the same thing. If you have to finalise your arrangement (ie figure out how long a part plays and when) before "freezing" it kind of makes it less useful. I'm forever maxing out my processor whilst composing/arranging and I tend to do a lot of bouncing down 8 and 16 bar loops to free up CPU power. I was hoping that you could freeze a 16 bar arrange object and thus create a temporary "frozen" file that you could then make aliases of etc in your arrangement. Maybe this is possible? Maybe someone from Emagic can comment?

Urs Heckmann wrote: > If you have a reverb in the chain for instance with a tail of about 5 > seconds and you suddenly have the switch from "frozen" to "processed", > you'd miss those 5 seconds of previously played notes because they > wouldn't be played. Yeah, you're of course right. Btw, another thing I missed is automatic reimport of offlinebounced files. PJ still had to drag them into the arrange (unless he didn't know some better method was existing, something I doubt). Sascha

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "yavuz_akyazici <yavuz1@m...>" <yavuz1@m...> wrote: > Now I have aquestion. He was using OSX and he had this Altiverb. > Do you know who makes this? It sounded pretty good eventhough he was > just testing it. Anyone? Altiverb is awesome. Check www.audioease.com Already here for OS9, don't think they've released an AU yet... He must've had a beta or something. Rob DeBoer

Yes, we should at least have the option of bouncing and replacing the existing file in the arrange automatically.

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, XOtherJesusx@a... wrote: > Isn't the Marquee tool just another name to what Pro Tool users have > had for years? Yup. Maybe someday we'll get a "shuffle" mode too. But the Marquee tool in conjunction with Logic's (superior, IMO) object-oreiented editing will be a winner combination. Did you see the intelligent loop-splitting? > I'm still bummed that time stretch in arrange is not coming with 6.0 At least we know it's coming. John Pitcairn ------------------------------------------------------------------ Midi controller learn in Logic. Soft takeover. Lots of memories. Tracks remember control assignments. Write track automation. Fadermapper demo: http://www.revolver.co.nz/fadermapper/ ------------------------------------------------------------------

At 17:34 Uhr +0100 04.02.2003, Sascha Franck wrote: >Anyways, even if Phil J. stopped the freeze process and the file was >allready frozen (up to the point where he pressed stop) - did anybody else >wonder about why a looped file would need to be frozen all over the song as >well? Shouldn't it be just enough to freeze the loop itself? If the track has plug-ins, their output is most probably not identical with every loop. Just think of a delay with lots of feedback. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

At 05:34 PM 2/4/2003 +0100, you wrote: >I must say I was VERY impressed by the Marquee tool and I also liked the >functionality of the channel EQ with its onboard analyzer. >Anyways, even if Phil J. stopped the freeze process and the file was >allready frozen (up to the point where he pressed stop) - did anybody else >wonder about why a looped file would need to be frozen all over the song as >well? Shouldn't it be just enough to freeze the loop itself? FX like reverb (aside from the response that they extend beyond the looped region) use random algorithms so even though the loops audio may be identical, the reverb will be different with each repeat. If it were me, and the FX didn't require anything like that, I would just freeze the one section. But I have to wonder, can loop be turned on on a frozen track? That would be nice if you could, though something tells me it's not possible. Maybe yet another thing for Logic 6.1. Colin Miller