Without boring you as to why I want to do this.... I need to create a loop by using system common messages. Since this is kind of a hairy confusing area for me, I'm hoping someone can help me. What is the specific command(s) to make a song return, for example, from measure 8 to measure one? I do understand the whole binary issue. I also understand I need to start the string with F0 and end with F7. As far as I can tell the stop command is 11111100 the start command is 11111010 plus the timing clock info. But although I have tried this, the sequence doesn't loop. Perhaps there is an easier way to do this (using MSB?LSB?) ( I know Logic has much easier ways to loop a sequence. Can't use these...trust me!I need to embed a message within the sequence) Any advice would be very much appreciated. Thanks Tim

Hi guys - hopefully someone can assist here - if you a spare moment I have a problem inasmuch that I had a 40gig drive on my logic based Pc - which is a pentium 4 running XP and the drive is NTFS formatted. I've just bought an 80gig drive which I've replaced it with - and want to put the old maxtor 40gig drive on my other pc which is running WIN ME on an old pentium 3 I don't seem to beable to find anyway I can revert the drive back to fat32 whilst its in sitting (slave) in the pentium 4 = the only option I keep getting is to reformat it to NTFS - any reference to fat or fat32 is not offered. If I take the HD and place it in the pentium 3 - the pc see's the drive there when I boot up and it goes thru its intialization etc - but then once it gets to booting up WIN ME - it just blinks away and doesn't boot the O/S I've tried fdisk after booting from a floppy - but i can't get to this drive in dos - it just doesn't see it can anyone help here ??? tia aaron

I don't think you can convert back to FAT32 using Windows but you should be able to do this with Partition Magic. Paul

> I don't think you can convert back to FAT32 using Windows but you > should be able to do this with Partition Magic. > > Paul You can convert back if you write zero's to the drive then reformat and reinstall. SRP3

Thoughts from the mind of frankenstrat11 <frankenstrat@...>, 01-01-2003: >Without boring you as to why I want to do this.... >I need to create a loop by using system common messages. Since this >is kind of a hairy confusing area for me, I'm hoping someone can help >me. >What is the specific command(s) to make a song return, for example, >from measure 8 to measure one? >I do understand the whole binary issue. I also understand I need to >start the string with F0 and end with F7. As far as I can tell the >stop command is 11111100 >the start command is 11111010 plus the timing clock info. >But although I have tried this, the sequence doesn't loop. First of all: no, you don't start/end with F0/F7. F0 and F7 are system common messages indicating start and end of a system exclusive message, and have nothing to do with starting or stopping a sequencer, or song position pointer or whatever. Second, I have no idea of Logic will obey system common and system realtime messages embedded in a sequence. What you would need, probably, is a "Song Position Pointer" (SPP) in the sequence -- in hexadecimal, that's a "F2 ll mm" message, where "ll mm" are the LSB and MSB indicating the number of MIDI beats (= 6 midi clocks, of which you have 24 per quarter) since the start of the song. So if you want to loop back to the start of the 2nd bar (= 4 beats into the song = 4*24– midi clocks = 96/6 midi beats), you would insert a "F2 10 00" message in the sequence at the point where you want Logic to return to bar 2. Start/continue/stop (FA, FB and FC respectively) are System Realtime messages, telling the sequencer to start/cont/stop -- but again I have no idea if Logic will respond to those if you insert them manually in a sequence. Furthermore, if you only want to loop back, you'd probably not need start/cont/stop messages -- or maybe, *if* Logic indeed _does_ loop back, you need a 'cont' message at the start of the loop (i.e. SPP to send Logic back to the start of the loop, and there Cont to continue running). And... according to the midi specs, start and cont messages ought to be followed by MIDI clocks (F8) -- which poses a problem, since Logic generates its own clock, and you're not using some external clock-source. So all in all this seems to be tricky business. The only way to figure this out is by lots of experimentation... As for the full midi specs: if you want to have them all together, with some other midi related stuff, check the midi section of my website (signature). Full midi specs with proper layout... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com

> > I don't think you can convert back to FAT32 using Windows but you > > should be able to do this with Partition Magic. > > > > Paul From: "itsplayed" <itsplayed@...> > You can convert back if you write zero's to the > drive then reformat and reinstall. > SRP3 how do i write zero's to the drive ?? and what is SRP3 ?? you've totally blinded me with science here !!!

> > how do i write zero's to the drive ?? > Writing zeros means totally erasing the contents of a disk. There are special utilities for doing this provided by HD manufacturers or alternatively there is a generic utility I know called Ontrack Disk Manager. Writing zeros is equal to the state you received the HD from the factory. In my opinion writing zeros is not really necessary in your case. If you do an FDISK it should be OK. Regards: Darth

> > how do i write zero's to the drive ?? > Writing zeros means totally erasing the contents of a disk. > There are special utilities for doing this provided by HD manufacturers > or alternatively there is a generic utility I know called Ontrack Disk > Manager. > Writing zeros is equal to the state you received the HD from the factory. > In my opinion writing zeros is not really necessary in your case. > If you do an FDISK it should be OK. > Regards: > Darth The PowerQuest PartionMagic 8.0 **Trial** allows you to convert your drive back to FAT32. Just download the trial and convert it back. (It is a time limited trial...) http://www.partitionmagic.com Also, there's a hardcore way to do it. If you change the cluster size for the drive in your BIOS, it will force the system to reformat the drive. Then you can set it back to the original size and re-format again. Obi

If you don't want to spend your money buying Partition Magic but prefer to "write zeros" to your HDDs, you can use a socalled "Low Level Format" utility. Those usually are placed on a boot floppy/CD and will just wipe out anything that has ever been on your HDD. Most HDD companies offer such a tool in their download sections. If you can't find any, I could mail you one from Maxtor which seems to work fine with all sorts of HDDs (I low level formatted at least 4-5 disks of different brands using it sucessfully). Be aware, low level formatting can take quite some hours for a large drive. But maybe the tip Obi posted is an even better way... Sascha

> > how do i write zeros39;s to the drive ?? Darth <d_a_r_t_h@...> wrote: > Writing zeros means totally erasing the contents of a disk. > There are special utilities for doing this provided by HD manufacturers > or alternatively there is a generic utility I know called Ontrack Disk > Manager. > Writing zeros is equal to the state you received the HD from the factory. > In my opinion writing zeros is not really necessary in your case. > If you do an FDISK it should be OK. Wrighting zeros is exactly that,Starting from scratch.I'm not too familiar with programs that may do a conversion back to FAT32, but I would still do a completely clean reformat of the drive anyway! This is without a doubt the best route to take for a systems file change! You can write zero's to your drive using the floppy start-up disk supplied by the drive manufacturer.Look to your manual for more info. Sorry for the "SRP3" it's just my handle!If you decide to start from scratch and write zero's back to your drive and need some guidance in doing so, just e-mail me at itsplayed@... and I'll help you out through the process. Just save all data that is unretreaveable before beginning

> The PowerQuest PartionMagic 8.0 **Trial** allows you to convert your drive > back to FAT32. Just download the trial and convert it back. (It is a time > limited trial...) > > http://www.partitionmagic.com > > Also, there's a hardcore way to do it. If you change the cluster size for > the drive in your BIOS, it will force the system to reformat the drive. Then > you can set it back to the original size and re-format again. > > Obi I think in his case it would be a 'clearer' action just to delete old NTFS partition in Partition Magic. Then you can either create and format a new FAT partition in PM or in Fdisk/Format... (I somehow dislike idea of having converted partitions) Ray.

> > The PowerQuest PartionMagic 8.0 **Trial** allows you to convert your drive > > back to FAT32. Just download the trial and convert it back. (It is a time > > limited trial...) > > http://www.partitionmagic.com > > Also, there's a hardcore way to do it. If you change the cluster size for > > the drive in your BIOS, it will force the system to reformat the drive. Then > > you can set it back to the original size and re-format again. From: "RayMaxer" <digil@...> > I think in his case it would be a 'clearer' action just to > delete old NTFS partition in Partition Magic. > Then you can either create and format a new FAT partition in PM or in > Fdisk/Format... (I somehow dislike idea of having converted partitions) thanx to everyone who has contributed to this dilemma I kinda think the easiest way for me would be to download the partion magic demo or .......simply put XP on the pentium 3 pc - and have everything running in NTFS - as from early postings I'd been sent it seemed I was stuck with the drive in its NTFS format anyway. thanks again everyone