I have a Powerbook G3 400 Pismo with Motu 828. I want to buy a version of logic which should help me with the following: - record my band with 8 channels audio simultaneously with the 828 - use softsynths such as EVP73 and AU-based instruments such as Simplesynth - mix all of it to CD - printing scores of my arrangements and melodies - adding music to digital video projects - play EVP73 or similar instruments live with Midiman Oxygen 8 Now I am considering the Logic Big Box, which seems to be very good value and includes lots of extra snacks such as the sampler. I have trouble finding out if there is anything important I am missing by going for Logic Audio instead of Gold or Platinum. Can Logic Audio do the things I mention above? Is there an easy upgrade path to Platinum if I should find out L Audio is not enough. Greetings Bjørn

> - printing scores of my arrangements and melodies You would need Logic Gold at least to format and print scores properly. (Unless Logic Audio has added more score features than the old Logic Silver) PT

bjornblomberg <bjornblomberg@...> wrote: I have a Powerbook G3 400 Pismo with Motu 828. I want to buy a version of logic which should help me with the following: - record my band with 8 channels audio simultaneously with the 828 (...) Can Logic Audio do the things I mention above? ===================== Don't know about LA 5.x but Logic Silver 4.x was definately not able to record other inputs than input1+2 on my audio card which offers 4 in and 4 out. One of the reasons I upgraded to Gold. Scoring is also pretty basic. Cheers, Herbert Boland www.zeppelin.demon.nl www.mp3.com/ztudio_zeppelin

bjornblomberg <bjornblomberg@y...> wrote: > I have a Powerbook G3 400 Pismo with Motu 828. I want to buy a version of= logic which should help me with the following: > - record my band with 8 channels audio simultaneously with the 828 (...) > Can Logic Audio do the things I mention above? "Herbert Boland" <yahoo@z...> wrote: > Don't know about LA 5.x but Logic Silver 4.x was definately not able to > record other inputs than input1+2 on my audio card which offers 4 in and > 4 out. One of the reasons I upgraded to Gold. Scoring is also pretty basic. > Cheers, Thanks for the input. Does anybody know if this has changed in Logic Audio for MacOSX, i.e. can the latest version of Logic Audio (not gold, not platinum)record 8 tracks of audio simultaneously? Also, is there any web-source with detailed info on the latest versions of Logic (it seems Emagic has removed the comparison chart for different versions of Logic). Thanks Bjørn

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "bjornblomberg <bjornblomberg@y...>" <bjornblomberg@y...> wrote: > Thanks for the input. > Does anybody know if this has changed in Logic Audio for MacOSX, i.e. can > the latest version of Logic Audio (not gold, not platinum)record 8 > tracks of audio simultaneously? Also, is there any web-source with detailed > info on the latest versions of Logic (it seems Emagic has removed the > comparison chart for different versions of Logic). > Thanks > Bjørn Hi, It's all listed at Emagic's website - up to 12 simultaneous inputs and outputs supported (depending of course on hardware). By the way, I'm one of the few people here using Logic Audio (as opposed to Gold or Plat), and I can tell you the features are vastly improved in version 5. Updating felt more like an upgrade - especially with regards to automation, effects routing, and sound quality. Best Regards, Boogs

> > i.e. can > > the latest version of Logic Audio (not gold, not platinum)record 8 > > tracks of audio simultaneously? Boogs writes > It's all listed at Emagic's website - up to 12 simultaneous inputs > and outputs supported (depending of course on hardware). By the way, > I'm one of the few people here using Logic Audio (as opposed to Gold > or Plat), and I can tell you the features are vastly improved in > version 5. Updating felt more like an upgrade - especially with > regards to automation, effects routing, and sound quality. That is great info, thanks a lot. Can I ask also whether the EVP73 and EXSP24 in the Big Box is working in OSX? Cheers Bjørn

> > > i.e. can the latest version of Logic Audio (not gold, not platinum) record 8 > > > tracks of audio simultaneously? Boogs writes: > > It's all listed at Emagic's website - up to 12 simultaneous inputs > > and outputs supported (depending of course on hardware). By the way, > > I'm one of the few people here using Logic Audio (as opposed to Gold > > or Plat), and I can tell you the features are vastly improved in > > version 5. Updating felt more like an upgrade - especially with > > regards to automation, effects routing, and sound quality. "bjornblomberg <bjornblomberg@y...>" <bjornblomberg@y...> wrote: > That is great info, thanks a lot. Can I ask also whether the EVP73 and > EXSP24 in the Big Box is working in OSX? Hi, All Emagic instruments are supposed to work in OSX according to Emagic. I'm still using 9.1, so I can't compare the performance, but you can search this forum - I think this has been covered. Best Regards, Boogs

> >"bjornblomberg <bjornblomberg@y...>" <bjornblomberg@y...> wrote: > >> That is great info, thanks a lot. Can I ask also whether the EVP73 and >> EXSP24 in the Big Box is working in OSX? Boogs answered: > >Hi, >All Emagic instruments are supposed to work in OSX according to >Emagic. I'm still using 9.1, so I can't compare the performance, but >you can search this forum - I think this has been covered. Notice that EXSP24 and EVP73are Logic's VST istruments and not Logic's "intrernal" instruments. As far as I know, neither of these two works in OS X. You might (should ?) be able to update them to full ESX24 and EVP88 which do work in OS X. Contact your dealer or maybe wait a few weeks and see if Winiter NAMM will bring news. Cheers -- Check out the web page for my band updated 11.11.2002 . New home address : http://koti.welho.com/jpennane

Hi, > > That is great info, thanks a lot. Can I ask also whether the EVP73 and > > EXSP24 in the Big Box is working in OSX? > All Emagic instruments are supposed to work in OSX according to > Emagic. I'm still using 9.1, so I can't compare the performance, but > you can search this forum - I think this has been covered. I think that's only the case for virtual instruments that are actually part of Logic itself, like EXS24 and EVP88. The ones mentioned above --- EXSP24 and EVP73 --- are proper VST 2.0 instruments that will work with any host, and as far as I can tell have not been ported to OSX yet. Cheers, Neil (another BigBox/Logic Audio user) -- Neil Johnson :: Computer Laboratory :: University of Cambridge :: http://www.njohnson.co.uk http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~nej22 ---- IEE Cambridge Branch: http://www.iee-cambridge.org.uk ----

<bjornblomberg@y...> wrote: > > That is great info, thanks a lot. Can I ask also whether the EVP73 and > > EXSP24 in the Big Box is working in OSX? "themanboogs <themanboogs@y...>" > Hi, > All Emagic instruments are supposed to work in OSX according to > Emagic. I'm still using 9.1, so I can't compare the performance, but > you can search this forum - I think this has been covered. They do not work in Logic under OSX. The EVP73 and EXSP24 in the Big Box are VST's. I called emagic to ask whether they would be ported and they said " i dont know, maybe". so thats helpful. k

<bjornblomberg@y...> wrote: > > > That is great info, thanks a lot. Can I ask also whether the EVP73 and > > > EXSP24 in the Big Box is working in OSX? "fauxstout <stout@k...>" <stout@k...> wrote: > They do not work in Logic under OSX. The EVP73 and EXSP24 in the Big > Box are VST's. I called emagic to ask whether they would be ported > and they said " i dont know, maybe". so thats helpful. Hm, that is a draw-back. Perhaps I'll try to buy only Logic Audio, i.e. without the box, but I guess it is not much cheaper than the box... Bjørn

> Hm, that is a draw-back. Perhaps I'll try to buy only Logic Audio, > i.e. without the box, but I guess it is not much cheaper than the box... > Bjørn when i bought it the Big Box was 50$ cheaper than the standard Logic. PLus you do get the ES1 built in synth which i user in OSX. realistcally i cant believe that a company thats pushing Audio Units so hard WONT convert their softsynths to Audio Units too . . . i got the feeling they were just be non-commital as thats a very corporate way to behave. incidentally, on a measly 800mhz G3 800 ibook ive been finding the ES1 to run REALLY well on OSX. . .the graphics updates are a tad slower but patch loading and instrument responsiveness are actually improved over OS9, which i found surprising as i lack the Altivec instructions. now if they could just add in Rewire support and port my VSTs over id be set! k