Hi Colin, > With a logic > screenset you would have to use a lot more of the screen to display it, or > switch between two different screensets when making mixer adjustments > (like > command + in pro tools). > Being a sometimes Pro Tool user myself, one thing I set up in Logic is a screenset with a full screen arrange window, and then a mixer(s) window completely hidden behind it in the same screen set. Then I assigned the key command for "select next window" to command+. This way I can use the key command to toggle back and forth between the arrange and mixer views; somewhat like in Pro Tools. Of course this is just a sort of "visual semantics". Because what's the difference between invoking that key command or simply calling up another screen set with a mixer window? I of course love screen sets and would not want to live without them. But the above mentioned set up allows me some sort of "mental" continuity in work flow between the two programs. -- Eli Krantzberg Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com

me: >> let me put it in one demand: "ONE WINDOW APPLICATION" ... a lot of people: > Bollox. ... > Bollox. I _like_ having lots of windows; that way I can set them up the way > I want them. who says you will not be able to arrange that one (let be 2 if you like) window with elemets you want... ;) got the idea? i somewhat knew there would be disagreement on this. and its ok. because if you get used to something you are most likely to defend it, no problem, really. > Being a sometimes Pro Tool user myself, one thing I set up in Logic is a > screenset with a full screen arrange window, and then a mixer(s) window > completely hidden behind it in the same screen set. Then I assigned the key > command for "select next window" to command+. This way I can use the key > command to toggle back and forth between the arrange and mixer views; somewhat > like in Pro Tools. a very nice comment and idea. i could also be fine with a serious update on logics window sheme. and one or more windows. but not the mess and waste of screen and logic we are facing at the moment, just wait and see ... ;) and here is a le version of my thoughts: besides lock/unlock screenset i'd like "revert to original saved version of screen set" in a way that changes are keept as long as i need them while switching from one to the other... peace, ulf. __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Yahoo! präsentiert als offizieller Sponsor das Fußball-Highlight des Jahres: - http://www.FIFAworldcup.com

> me: > >> let me put it in one demand: "ONE WINDOW APPLICATION" ... > > a lot of people: > > Bollox. I _like_ having lots of windows; that way I can set them up > >the way Regarding the windows... Check How much space is lost in the top part of every plugin window.. Title and lower area.. if you have 4-5 plugins opened, total lost area is pretty big part of full screen. Ray.

>Being a sometimes Pro Tool user myself, one thing I set up in Logic is a >screenset with a full screen arrange window, and then a mixer(s) window >completely hidden behind it in the same screen set. Then I assigned the >key command for "select next window" to command+. This way I can use the >key command to toggle back and forth between the arrange and mixer views; >somewhat like in Pro Tools. That's a pretty cool Idea, I might implement that myself. Just to clarify though, my point was just that in this scenario, Pro Tools handles it pretty well in that you can have two complete windows and switch with a key command (which I was kind of comparing to using screensets to quickly switch windows (I know not exactly the same as a screenset, but you get the idea)). But at the same time, you can still configure it to access parts of the mixer from within the arrange window without using up much real estate (as in the fader only pops up when you click on the volume display. This scenario isn't much of an issue for me personally since I don't do much audio in Loigc, just kind of giving people an idea how a sceenset is not always a replacement for single windows (and of course many times it is better). I think I am going to set up that key command for 'next window' which I never noticed before, would come in handy for me when toggling back and forth between say the martix and arrange in a screenset. Thanks! Colin Miller