Hi, I am currently on WinXP, but are also setting up a Titan with OS10.2 Well, here goes, how do I make a folder/directory appear as a drive in OSX? In Windows you can SUBST a folder and it will appear in the system as an independent drive. The thing is that I have mapped all samples, sound archives etc. to that "virtual" drive, so that the drive letters are always the same on any computer, over network etc. I have used the letter R: for several years, so all my projects are compatible. I.e when I have converted AKAI CD's to EXS24 all instruments look for the samples in R: (else EXS24 search your entire computer until it finds the proper samples. As you can imagine this is very time consuming when it has to do that for each instrument file...) So, how do I "SUBST" a folder in OSX? Regards, Obi

On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 11:13 AM, Obliviän|Bacteria AS wrote: > I.e when I have converted > AKAI CD's to EXS24 all instruments look for the samples in R: (else > EXS24 > search your entire computer until it finds the proper samples. As you > can > imagine this is very time consuming when it has to do that for each > instrument file...) > > So, how do I "SUBST" a folder in OSX? > hard to say - I don't think there is a direct equivalent - but I accomplish something similar by using aliases (similar to shortcuts in Windows) That said: there is a major problem when transfering your EXS instruments from PC to Mac and vice-versa: The EXS instruments (not the samples themselves) are text files which locate samples by storing the absolute path to the sample location. Dos uses a backslash in the string to separate directories in the path. Mac OS 9 uses the colon. Unix uses a forward slash. I am not running Logic under X yet - but one assumes that it has some facility to read the instrument files generated under OS9 and correctly interpret when running under X. This does not work when importing and EXS file that was created under DOS or equivalent - I can attest that having created EXS files with CdXtract on my PC - then importing the files into the Mac. To even get the EXS files to read I had to import the EXS file into a good text utility (BBEdit is the choix du jour on Macs) and batch replace the illegal characters. For an entire library this would take forever. Good question - I hope that someone with the goods (that would be Michael Haydn, I presume) could talk about this.

Hi there, On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 01:13 AM, Obliviän | Bacteria AS wrote: > I am currently on WinXP, but are also setting up a Titan with OS10.2 > Well, > here goes, how do I make a folder/directory appear as a drive in OSX? In > Windows you can SUBST a folder and it will appear in the system as an > independent drive. The thing is that I have mapped all samples, sound > archives etc. to that "virtual" drive, so that the drive letters are > always > the same on any computer, over network etc. I have used the letter R: > for > several years, so all my projects are compatible. Ahh.. interesting. Well you need to look into DiskCopy. /Applications/Utilities/ (Btw Disk Copy is also available on OS 9.) It allows you to create virtual disks of a size of your choosing. You can also do this via the command line in OS X See 'man hdiutil' Having created a virtual disk "R" you could have it mounted automatically by doing one of the following: - Open up System Preferences-->Login. Drag the dmg to this window. - Create a script that will (un)mount the diskimage for you. e.g., Say you've created the disk image and stored it at ~/Documents/Studio/DMGs/R.dmg Now create the following file if you haven't already: ~/Library/init/tcsh/aliases.mine #place the following in there alias mountR 'hdiutil mount ~/Documents/Studio/DMGs/R.dmg' -- Or for convenience create an AppleScript that prompts you to either eject ot mount the image: on run set my_dlg to (display dialog "Mount or Eject?" buttons {"Cancel", "Eject", "Mount"} default button 3) (* Note you can hit ESC for Cancel *) if button returned of my_dlg is equal to "Eject" then do shell script "eject R" else if button returned of my_dlg is equal to "Mount" then do shell script "hdiutil mount ~/Documents/Studio/DLGs/R.dmg" endif end run Now paste into the script editor and either place an alias of it in the Dock or make use of the Script Menu.... with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ldeck@...

Obliviän | Bacteria AS wrote: >> I am currently on WinXP, but are also setting up a Titan with OS10.2 Well, >> here goes, how do I make a folder/directory appear as a drive in OSX? In >> Windows you can SUBST a folder and it will appear in the system as an >> independent drive. The thing is that I have mapped all samples, sound >> archives etc. to that "virtual" drive, so that the drive letters are always >> the same on any computer, over network etc. I have used the letter R: for >> several years, so all my projects are compatible. From: "Lachlan Deck" <ldeck@...> >Ahh.. interesting. >Well you need to look into DiskCopy. >/Applications/Utilities/ >[snip] Thanks I'll try that! Homborg just wrote that it might be impossible to cross-use my EXS24 sample/instrument library though... Would it be an idea to share the folder over the network and just map it to "R:"?

> Hi there, > Two VERY ingenious solutions. However (and forgive me if I'm wrong) I think it isn't necessary to have all this trouble in the Mac environment. Here's why: AFAIK - Mac (and for the little time I experienced OS X till now, remains) always address HDs in an absolute way - E.G. No matter how many HDs I have mounted, if I have an HD called SAMPLES, it will always be the same disk, and uniquely identified as that. Windows, on the other hand, always address drives by letter - if we change our HDs, or simply add a new one, suddenly, the OS no longer "knows" where our files/apps are (I know this by self experience). Therefore (again, didn't try this on a network but I presume is tha same) if you create a partition names SAMPLES in one of your Mac HDs and file all you samples there, and tell EXS that this will be your samples HD, no matter how many HDs are mounted, it should always recognize this as the right one. Please excuse me if I'm wrong, and correct me. Fernando

Another possibility which avoids the need for any custom OSX config: If the EXS instrument files are just text, use a decent text-editor like BBEdit - http:www.barebones.com - to do a big fat multi-file grep search & replace on the pathnames in all your instrument files all at once... ie find: R:blahblahyaddadoodoofilename and replace with: /Volumes/diskname/blahblah/yadda/doodoo/filename or whatever format the EXS needs for OSX. Refer to one of the bundled EXS instruments for details. And, er, work on a copy of the files, of course ;-) John Pitcairn ----------------------------------------------------------------- Got a controller? Wish there was a midi learn function in Logic? Try the Fadermapper demo: http://www.revolver.co.nz/fadermapper/ -----------------------------------------------------------------

John Pitcairn wrote: > R:blahblahyaddadoodoofilename > > and replace with: > > /Volumes/diskname/blahblah/yadda/doodoo/filename > > or whatever format the EXS needs for OSX. Refer to one of the > bundled EXS instruments for details. And, er, work on a copy of > the files, of course ;-) This is what I did (with BBEdit of course) to convert a 4 disc library from pc to mac. Even with the batch processing it takes a certain amount of work - ie replace illegal characters in one pass, then replace directories as needed. You also have to make sure that that sample file directories land in the right place, or the EXS will take forever to search whenever you want to invoke a certain bank. Personally, I don't expect to re-visit this issue again, now that CDXtract 4 has parity on both platforms. But the original poster raised a valid concern: even with batch processing the task of moving EXS from pc to mac would be a potentially large task. A step by step guide, or better, an elegant solution (some kind of utility?) would be a good idea for Emagic to consider - especially if they are trying to make cross-grading as attractive and painless as possible..

Hi there, Obliviän | Bacteria AS wrote: >>> I am currently on WinXP, but are also setting up a Titan with OS10.2 >>> Well, >>> here goes, how do I make a folder/directory appear as a drive in OSX? >>> In >>> Windows you can SUBST a folder and it will appear in the system as an >>> independent drive. The thing is that I have mapped all samples, sound >>> archives etc. to that "virtual" drive, so that the drive letters are >>> always >>> the same on any computer, over network etc. I have used the letter >>> R: for >>> several years, so all my projects are compatible. From: "Lachlan Deck" <ldeck@...> >> Ahh.. interesting. >> Well you need to look into DiskCopy. >> /Applications/Utilities/ >> [snip] Obliviän | Bacteria AS wrote: > Thanks I'll try that! Homborg just wrote that it might be impossible to > cross-use my EXS24 sample/instrument library though... Would it be an > idea > to share the folder over the network and just map it to "R:"? I saw what homburg wrote. I have to disagree with his theory of forever on conversion :-). Well it would take forever doing it by hand if you had a lot of files, but a simple AppleScript will suffice or even a couple of C++ files I've got would do the trick together with a shell script. Contact me privately (I have one already that does something similar). Hmm. You can certainly mount the volume of a shared disk (from a network computer) - but if this is for real-time stuff I don't know how that will go (i.e., how these exs libraries are utilised in Logic). But you can certainly try. I'm on 10.1.5 (so this may be a little simpler in 10.2) but... From GUI: Jump into Sherlock and hit the Apple Icon (to search the Apple Knowledge-base). Type in "Mac OS X Connect to SMB" or something similar (Note: you'll need to log into the knowledge base by creating an account first if you want to view the results of a sherlock find in your browser. So go to http://www.apple.com/support/ and click KnowledgBase or MySupport and set up an account if you haven't already. This account, btw, will be used for Apple online discussions and the store etc). To share your stuff with the outside world.... - Go to System Preferences-->Sharing Turn on sharing, you may want to allow remote logins via terminal and or ftp access (if you want to login from your XP machine for example). From the knowledgbase: -- Follow these steps: 1. Click the Finder icon in the Dock. 2. Choose Connect to Server from the Go menu (see Note 1). 3. In the address field of the Connect to Server dialog, type the URL using this syntax (see Note 3): smb://ServerName/ShareName/ 4. Click Connect. (e.g., smb://192.168.1.2/R/) You will be prompted for the workgroup, user name, and password. In addition to connecting to actual Microsoft Windows computers, you may also use the Connect to Server dialog to connect to a Macintosh that is offering Windows File Sharing. Notes: 1. When you go to the Connect to Server dialog, you may browse by computer name. In Mac OS X versions 10.0 to 10.1.5, the names of SMB-sharing computers do not appear. In Mac OS X 10.2 or later, the names of SMB computers do appear (see Note 2). However, only the names of computers on your subnet appear. 2. You may not always see the expected user-defined computer name when browsing via SMB. See technical document 107085, "Mac OS X 10.2: Windows (SMB) Computer Name Does Not Appear in Connect to Server Dialog". 3. "ServerName" may be an IP address or DNS name. 4. The name of the "share" (the shared disk, volume, or directory) must be specified. You will not be prompted for it. --- After following those steps you'll have volume R on your Mac Desktop assuming, of course, that you've allowed the volume to be shared from XP. Note: If it doesn't work then you could set up the Mac to synchronise its copy with your XP machine. But that's for another day :-) check out 'man -k smb' for commands relating to smb. with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ldeck@...

--- In logic-users@y..., homburg <homburg@c...> wrote: > This is what I did (with BBEdit of course) What would we do without it ...? No, not Emacs, please no ;-) John Pitcairn ----------------------------------------------------------------- Got a controller? Wish there was a midi learn function in Logic? Try the Fadermapper demo: http://www.revolver.co.nz/fadermapper/ -----------------------------------------------------------------

Lachlan Deck wrote: > I saw what homburg wrote. I have to disagree with his theory of forever > on conversion :-). Well it would take forever doing it by hand if you > had a lot of files, but a simple AppleScript will suffice or even a > couple of C++ files I've got would do the trick together with a shell > script. Those are great suggestions - although I don't understand how learning AS or Unix can be of any appeal to someone coming over, lock stock and barrel from pc to mac. Still think that it is an issue that Emagic may want to address. As for the time spent - like I said, I am only reporting my experience with a 4 disc set - your milage may vary. In any case - you do have to open text files - make notes - do the conversion with some application - batch or not - this is outside the usual Logic experience. Again, I think it would be useful for Emagic to address the issue directly. Here is another suggestion for Emagic: it would be nice if the EXS database generated a warning for duplicate filenames. As it is now you could import 2 sample discs each of which contain a patch called "xxxxx" - the duplication will not be apparent at first since each disc import will create its own hierarchy in the Sampler Instruments menu. It will become apparent when you use instrument "xxxxx" in a song - and then reload the song. When loading in the song Logic will use the first "xxxxx" instrument it finds in the dbase. In this case you have to manually find the one you want - then load it into the editor and rename. Nicer if Logic handled this with a little message at the time of import.

From: "John Pitcairn" <johnp@...> > If the EXS instrument files are just text, use a decent text-editor > like BBEdit - http:www.barebones.com - to do a big fat multi-file > grep search & replace on the pathnames in all your instrument > files all at once... Unfortunately, the ESX24 instrument files are compiled somehow, not pure text...

>You can certainly mount the volume of a shared disk (from a network >computer) - but if this is for real-time stuff I don't know how that >will go (i.e., how these exs libraries are utilised in Logic). But you >can certainly try. Well, of course it's not the project audio files only the EXS24 samples and I think 100Mbit/s will be suffient for that...? Or, maybe not with the inbuilt EXS24 Virtual Memory Manager?

> That said: there is a major problem when transfering your EXS > instruments from PC to Mac and vice-versa: ... same for moving mac-hd to another mac-hd. running a "rescan all exs files" over night is needed. i think emagic needs to adress the filehandling at very high priority. question: does it make any difference to the exs if it finds an alias of "sampler instruments" or the real folder inside the logic folder? ahg: boring stuff. the kind of things that one might think "thats what computers are for" but actually make you work more.

Hi there, Lachlan Deck wrote: >> I saw what homburg wrote. I have to disagree with his theory of forever >> on conversion :-). Well it would take forever doing it by hand if you >> had a lot of files, but a simple AppleScript will suffice or even a >> couple of C++ files I've got would do the trick together with a shell >> script. homburg wrote: > Those are great suggestions - although I don't understand how learning > AS or Unix can be of any appeal to someone coming over, lock stock and > barrel from pc to mac. Still think that it is an issue that Emagic may > want to address. True and I wasn't in the least suggesting that people should be able to do this. I was however suggesting (maybe not clearly :-) that if someone would like to drop me an e-mail with the specs of what has to be changed when going either way then I could wip something up... > As for the time spent - like I said, I am only reporting my experience > with a 4 disc set - your milage may vary. In any case - you do have to > open text files - make notes - do the conversion with some application > - batch or not - this is outside the usual Logic experience. Again, I > think it would be useful for Emagic to address the issue directly. Of course. with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ldeck@...

i whish i could color audio instruments in the track mixer. at least give colors to categroies (inst, track, output, aux ...).

--- In logic-users@y..., "uswitalski@y..." <uswitalski@y...> wrote: > i whish i could color audio instruments in the track mixer. > at least give colors to categroies (inst, track, output, aux ...). Yes! I was just thinking that today while working on auto-scrolling for Fadermapper - it can be bloody hard to quickly identify a specific channel or exactly where you are in the window from a few feet away. In the environment Audio layer, there's always the option to use the old-style coloured audio objects (a la version 2.x), but they're just so damn UGLY and use even more space. The only thing I can recommend is to place a coloured text-fader (range 0-0 to save memory) above each audio object, the same width as the object. But of course that's no help in the track mixer... John Pitcairn ----------------------------------------------------------------- Got midi fader/knob hardware? Want to control & automate Logic? Try the Fadermapper demo: http://www.revolver.co.nz/fadermapper/ -----------------------------------------------------------------

> In the environment Audio layer, there's always the option to use > the old-style coloured audio objects (a la version 2.x), but they're > just so damn UGLY and use even more space. good tip, thank you. ugly, yes. or one might say "funky" for what happens in the track mixer with old style audio objects... (thats the UN-logic that lives within logic and calles for a MAJOR rethinking, i guees another product then.)

"uswitalski@y..." <uswitalski@y...> wrote: > > i whish i could color audio instruments in the track mixer. > > at least give colors to categroies (inst, track, output, aux ...). > Yes! I was just thinking that today while working on auto-scrolling > for Fadermapper - it can be bloody hard to quickly identify a > specific channel or exactly where you are in the window from a > few feet away. > > In the environment Audio layer, there's always the option to use > the old-style coloured audio objects (a la version 2.x), but they're > just so damn UGLY and use even more space. The only thing I > can recommend is to place a coloured text-fader (range 0-0 to > save memory) above each audio object, the same width as the > object. But of course that's no help in the track mixer... > > John Pitcairn This feature would be nice indeed !!! When I read your tip about the coloured text faders came to my mind why not use ornament objects for such purpose ? Some day ago I was really thinking why an ornament object could be useful and here it is. Correct me if I'm wrong... Regards: Darth

Thoughts from the mind of d_a_r_t_h@..., 25-10-2002: >When I read your tip about the coloured text faders >came to my mind why not use ornament objects for >such purpose ? Some day ago I was really thinking >why an ornament object could be useful and here it is. >Correct me if I'm wrong... You're wrong. Ornaments don't assume the colour you assign to them. About their usefulness: for one, they're the objects that take up the least memory of all environment objects, so when you try to build a macro and need some 'zero-action' objects (which you need all the time), then an ornament is a better choice than a monitor or default transformer. With the tight limit on macro-size this can make the difference between a do-able and not-do-able macro. Second: create a fader and give it a name that's wider than the object's width. Then pack that into a macro: the text that falls "outside" the fader will be invisible. Apparently the text-width is not considered when Logic deals with the object width. To fix this, put an ornament around the fader, such that the entire name falls within the ornament's boundary. Pack ornament + fader in a macro: presto. Third: when making a relatively complex environment with a lot of controls, ornaments can help to visually separate related sets of controls. Need any more arguments in favour of ornaments? :-) Would be nice if you could colour them though... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

--- In logic-users@y..., Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> wrote: > Need any more arguments in favour of ornaments? :-) Would be nice if you could colour them though... Would indeed. A further nice touch with ornaments would be an option whereby selecting an ornament also selects every object inside that ornament. Just a little "select all" checkbox in the ornament's parameters... John Pitcairn ----------------------------------------------------------------- Got midi fader/knob hardware? Want to control & automate Logic? Try the Fadermapper demo: http://www.revolver.co.nz/fadermapper/ -----------------------------------------------------------------

Hendrik Jan Veenstra wrote: > Need any more arguments in favour of ornaments? :-) Would be nice if > you could colour them though... Heck, I'd like to be able to insert a .gif or jpeg. Imagine the possibilities! When I first read that something called an 'ornament object' had been introduced, I thought maybe thats what they had done. i was disappointed when i got my hands on it and found it came in any color as long as it was grey :(. Dave Eager