Here it is again, a short add to the ongoing wish list: Allow "cursor quantization" when working with Automation In the Arrange Automation view. After all, Logic has Default cursor quantize for all other data (which you can't even turn off without having to always hold down modifier keys, unfortunately - you should be able to toggle it), and yet you can't even enable cursor quantize at all for fader/automation data in this view! It makes copying and pasting of data harder. Make it easier to copy/paste automation data in the Arrange graphically - it seems Copy MIDI Events works, but standard Copy and Paste doesn't. Shapes! Preset shapes for Controllers AND Fader/Automation, so that drawing in LFOs in particular could be accomplished, and quickly. I.E., include at least the basics: sine, square, adjustable-width pulse, S&H, Triangle, Sawtooth up/down. You already have linear, parabola and "S" for Automation view - add all shapes to standard Hyperdraw (and HyperEdit?) for standard Controllers as well. Once the shapes are in (either hand-drawn and copy/pasted with the proposed new, easier methods, or drawn with the proposed new Shapes tool), I want to have an easier way to graphically SCALE these shapes to impose an overall larger shape on it. Logic sadly lacks this ability, with the closest thing being the awkward "Relative Crescendo" option in the Transform, which can only do a linear Ramp and is very time-consuming. A GRAPHICAL "SCALE" TOOL is the answer, also with linear and adjustable parabola and "S" shapes. Like the regular automation tool has, except that this scale tool will multiply (above and below a midline 0 value) according to it's momentary value. Example: 1)draw a triangle wave LFO to modulate an EQ's frequency band, or resonance, or whatever you like; 2) Use the Scale Tool as a straight line across to lower the amplitude of this LFO overall; 3) use the Scale Tool from the start of the track to a Crescendo Peak point in the track, going from a slightly negative value to a value of 25% boost, so that the LFO amplitude "Ramps up" - give this ramp a negative or positive parabolic (exponential) shape to taste. Again, should be for Automation and standard controllers, in the various editors. Once you've coded the SHAPES tool, allow it to be used in the TRANSFORM's MAP window, so Maps can be done easily, particularly linear and parabola funtionality, although LFO shapes might be interesting there as well. What do y'all think? Jonathan Perl Sonic Arts Center @ The City College Of New York (212) 650-6837 http://sonic.arts.ccny.cuny.edu

Thoughts from the mind of Jonathan Perl, 23-10-2002: >Here it is again, a short add to the ongoing wish list: >... >[ interesting and sound ideas deleted (hey, this is just like >politics, right? :-) ] >... >What do y'all think? Good ideas, although I doubt any of them will make it into LA anytime soon... As for your desire to scale stuff: I've had the same wish for ages, and made 2 environment patches (scaler and compander), both of which allow you to scale (expand/compress) data (functionally identical, but using a somewhat different approach). I use them all the time myself -- having a perfect volume curve, but just wanting to compress things a bit, and 'transposing' everything a bit upwards, etc. Rather convenient. See my website's "Soft" section (see signature). Maybe I should make an updated version that allows you to automate the amount of scaling, so that you can have compression at the onset, moving into expansion a few bars later...? Obviously the macros only work with 'real' midi events -- i.e. old-style automation. I wonder if they could be made to work with TBA as well? Hmm... should give that a try... As for your desire to have flexible transformer maps: you might want to check out my Magic Mapper packge (same webpage), which allows you to define any mathematical function in Excel and have it produce appropriate data (you could even do this in a plain text editor) and dump that as midi data into a Logic transformer. Note that this creates a transformer with a certain map -- i.e. the environment object, and not the Transform window. ... which makes me wonder if you could also set the Transform-window's map in a similar manner... Again something I should give a try, I guess... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

From: "Hendrik Jan Veenstra" <h@...> > As for your desire to have flexible transformer maps: you might want > to check out my Magic Mapper packge (same webpage), which allows you > to define any mathematical function in Excel and have it produce > appropriate data (you could even do this in a plain text editor) and > dump that as midi data into a Logic transformer. > Note that this creates a transformer with a certain map -- i.e. the > environment object, and not the Transform window. > ... which makes me wonder if you could also set the > Transform-window's map in a similar manner... Again something I > should give a try, I guess... Hi Hendrik, I did download the Magic Mapper when you first announced it several months back. Unfortunately, it does not work with Windows as you mentioned. Any chance that you may be able to 'port' it at some time in the future? Danny

Thoughts from the mind of Danny, 23-10-2002: >Hi Hendrik, > >I did download the Magic Mapper when you first announced it several months >back. > >Unfortunately, it does not work with Windows as you mentioned. Any chance >that you may be able to 'port' it at some time in the future? I can't imagine I ever said it was Windows compatible, since it isn't... If I did, then I messed up -- sorry. The spreadsheet, Magic Sheet, is obviously cross platform, since it's an Excel thing, but the application that sends the Excel data to Logic relies heavily on OMS and so can't be ported in any convenient way... Hey, yet another fine reason to switch platforms, right? :-)) -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html