Frank, >Fokke the amount to pay is a bit unclear from the web site : Transport >cost , tax are not mentioned, can you please add that >( a price for 1 and 1_+2 , ) >( together with full Giro / bank pay ) so we can pay you before you >collect 800 coffee cup holders ? >right now i do not know what amount to fill in ... Sorry, the site was built rather in a hurry. I have too many projects on my hands these days, and I wanted to get this one out. I'll add some info to the ordering page! As for giro-number, I am almost sure I _did_ add that, at the bottom of the ordering page. Shipping costs and VAT were indeed missing. I'll post a new message to the list when that is added! Fokke