Michael Haydn wrote: > Audio MIDI Setup is part of Mac OS X 10.2 (Jaguar), not 10.1.5. And > it is not required to make Logic work with MIDI. It's just a tool to > customize your MIDI ports. Thanks for your help, Michael. I know that the below are Apple issues but Apple has (regarding Audio MIDI Setup) only one document on their web site: there is no information on how to use the application. It seems like a 1.0 effort! :- <<< (Mona Lisa smile) Perhaps you can send this kind of feedback up the ladder! When I run Audio MIDI Setup and have it scan for my devices I only get it to see my AMT8, it does not see the stuff hooked up to the AMT8. If I manually add devices and cable them to and from the AMT8 it looks ok but upon rescanning the cables get erased. However, I can access my various MIDI devices from inside Logic so I do not know what the problem is. BTW - the icon shells (the somewhat circular, somewhat rectangular frames around the actual device icons) sure take up a lot of screen room. Bob -- Has anybody seen Cameron Diaz and Michelle Pfeiffer in a room together?