In the I've seen a lot of strange stuff category.. I'd rebooted both LAP and the whole box a couple of times. Still no AMT-8. So I gave up, and figured I might as well as go ahead and touch up my autoload anyway, and while noodling about in the environment, all of a sudden the AMT8 sprang to life, LED's flashing all over the place, the Logic Surfaces jumped to life, faders flying all over. It was spooky, I tell ya. At any rate, everything was more or less fine, execpt the Delta 1010 was cutting in and out for a bit. I saved the autoload, and rebooted one more time and now everything is just ducky. It all works. Go figure. I did look at the console log for the startup sequence, and there was a bunch of weird stuff in the log related to the AMT8 trying to load, I've forwarded those to a friend at Apple who will send them off to the appropriate folks to look at (Emagic included). I have no idea what it was, or why it got "stuck" during startup, but all seems to be fine now. The flaky business with the "hotspot" of the cursor not clicking where you'd think it should is still there, but the odd refresh problem in the environment and mixer windows seems to be gone. I have noticed that it loads boatloads faster than it did under OS9, even with my ludicrously large sampler instruments stuff. In fact, the status bar barely pauses when it shows the EXS scanning bit. Very cool. I'll start putting it through the paces this week and keep you posted on what I find. Mark