OK. I just installed LAP 5.3 on OSX 10.2. My Delta 1010 shows up splendidly, and works spot on. BTW, If you've got one of these, check out the nifty monitor panel. Although you can use Audio & Midi to set it up, there's also an OSX version of the Delta control panel which has this new meter button that brings up a floaty palette that shows all the in and out levels. Cool. Sadly.. My AMT8 does not show up at all. In the midi tab of Audio & Midi I see nothing. Rescanning shows nothing. From the website I'd gathered that it was a simultaneous release, and the download notes would lead one to believe that the Unitor/AMT8 stuff got installed as part of the LAP 5.3/OSX installation. It doesn't, at least from what I can tell. Any clues? On a positive note it did a really good job of translating my 9.x autoload over to the CoreAudio ins and outs. When I opened my Autoload it just asked me if I wanted to convert, I hit convert and had audio 5 seconds later. Now If I could just get my midi going. I'm missing my control surface stuff already. God, you have no idea how much of a drag the mouse is until you're forced to go back and use it again. Mark

Mark Lewno wrote: > My AMT8 does not show up at all. In the midi tab of Audio & Midi I see > nothing. Rescanning shows nothing. > I found I had to configure Audio and MIDI myself. The 5.3 installer didn't do it for me. Unfortunately I don't remember exactly what I did, but I did reboot the machine, and I also had to reboot the AMT8, then I set up a new configuration and the AMT was there. [it is recognised as Unitor] I thought it may have been because I'm using a third-party USB/firewire card in a beige G3, but maybe everyone needs to do this. Dave Eager

op 02-09-2002 06:31 schreef David Eager op beager@...: > Mark Lewno wrote: > >> My AMT8 does not show up at all. In the midi tab of Audio & Midi I see >> nothing. Rescanning shows nothing. >> > I found I had to configure Audio and MIDI myself. The 5.3 installer didn't do > it for me. Unfortunately I don't remember exactly what I did, but I did reboot > the machine, > and I also had to reboot the AMT8, then I set up a new configuration and the > AMT was there. [it is recognised as Unitor] I thought it may have been because > I'm using a > third-party USB/firewire card in a beige G3, but maybe everyone needs to do > this. > > Dave Eager hallo Dave, How is macos X on a beige G3? I also installed an usb card on my beige G3 (for the Xskey) , but I thought that MACOS X is not running smoothly on this kind of computer. What's your opinion about it? cause I see that you have installed macos X!!!And Logic together with macos X and the beige G3? what about the performance?

At 16:53 Uhr -0500 01.09.2002, Mark Lewno wrote: >My AMT8 does not show up at all. In the midi tab of Audio & Midi I see >nothing. Rescanning shows nothing. These parameters aren't required any more. To check if a MIDI out port is available, open the MIDI port popup menu of a MIDI instrument. >From the website I'd gathered that it was a simultaneous release, and the >download notes would lead one to believe that the Unitor/AMT8 stuff got >installed as part of the LAP 5.3/OSX installation. > >It doesn't, at least from what I can tell. Any clues? It does. See above. >On a positive note it did a really good job of translating my 9.x autoload >over to the CoreAudio ins and outs. When I opened my Autoload it just asked >me if I wanted to convert, I hit convert and had audio 5 seconds later. Now >If I could just get my midi going. I'm missing my control surface stuff >already. God, you have no idea how much of a drag the mouse is until you're >forced to go back and use it again. Logic Control is fully supported on Mac OS X. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

On Monday, September 2, 2002, at 04:55 PM, Bannockx wrote: > How is macos X on a beige G3? I also installed an usb card on my beige > G3 > (for the Xskey) , but I thought that MACOS X is not running smoothly > on this > kind of computer. What's your opinion about it? cause I see that you > have > installed macos X!!!And Logic together with macos X and the beige G3? > what > about the performance? Bear in mind the G3/233 is not my main computer. My G4 is out on loan at the moment, so this is all I have to test Jaguar and 5.3 on. [in fact I stripped OSX from my G4 when I got a ProTools mix system last year, because of potential PACE authorization problems, so I have been running OSX on the beige box for most of the time since it's release] At first OS 10.0 was pretty slow and arduous, but by the time it got to 10.1.3 or something, it was running pretty smoothly for the low demands I was putting on it. I was concerned that Jaguar may be the end of the road and the OS would finally tell me the generic firewire/usb card I am using was not up to the game, but, in fact, it seems as fast as OS9.2. Logic seems to be running fine too. I haven't tested the cpu limits, but I can at least run a single audioinstrument. [I maxed out at about 2 ES1s in OS9, depending on polyphony] I have been checking out EVB3, and it runs fine at about 2 voices polyphony, but audio crackles then ceases at 3 voices. I have the XSKey and AMT8 on a MacAlly powered hub connected to the firewire/usb card [no brand name on the box] Both are working fine. I have an internal fast SCSI drive on an ADAPTEC 2930 powerdomain controller, and an external firewire drive. Both seem to be playing back audio OK. The audio is handled by a Delta Audiophile card. I was initially concerned when installing the 10.2 Delta drivers, because the info stated a G4 as being minimum system requirement. But it installed fine, and is probably handling audio better than it does on OS9 [where I have had issues of the card distorting every so often, for which I have to open the delta control panel from the ASIO driver to get relief. But this has not happened on OX, so-far.] I haven't tested the number of tracks I can run. I'll do that if I get time. All in all, running Logic on this machine is similar to running 5.2 in OS9. Some things seem to run faster, some slower, but they average out about the same. The experience has been much smoother than i felt I had a right to expect, given the CPU and third-party usb/firewire card and SCSI card. hope this helps Dave Eager

Hi there, On Monday, September 2, 2002, at 04:55 PM, Bannockx wrote: > hallo Dave, > > How is macos X on a beige G3? I also installed an usb card on my beige > G3 > (for the Xskey) , but I thought that MACOS X is not running smoothly on > this > kind of computer. What's your opinion about it? Well (althought I'm not Dave) I can speak from experience... I've been using Mac OS X since 10.0 was released and it quickly became my primary OS not only because I wanted to learn as much as I could about it and because it is amazing to look at but because IMHO it runs really well - even on this beige G3 233 of mine (Of course 10.1 was a real boost for everyone's X experience). So if anyone has bones to pick about OS X's performance on a Beige G3, I do as the G3 233 is at the bottom of the requirements to run OS X. I'm currently running 10.1.5 which is the best so far. My only restarts are for OS 9. I can't remember (seriously) the last time I've had any problems it's so stable. An app may give me trouble, but the OS keeps charging on.... I'm looking forward to 10.2 which should run even better... You'll find with experience in OS X that the way you do things will not necessarily be as you did them in OS 9. This is not to feared. What I'm getting at is that when you start with OS X have an open mind as to new ways of working so that you can figure out the most efficient practices. For example, in OS 9 you might have a series of tabbed windows at the bottom of the screen listing your aliases (Apple, Controls, Office, Studio, etc) and basically your desktop is kind of central - Hard Drives, removable media on the desktop etc. I've found instead that in OS X having two Finder windows tiled to a decent width and height I can move and find things much more quickly. I love the column view (from NeXT). The Dock is also very handy. I've got mine on the right so I've got the rest of the screen for everything else. 1152x870 screen res - the max I can get out of this AppleVision - on OS 9 may have been too small, but on OS X it just gives me much more screen real estate. I can run more apps etc etc...the multitasking is just a treat... So - when people say, "Mac OS X doesn't run properly on a Beige G3"... It's absolute Bogus!! with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ldeck@...