Try running the signal through a low-pass filter and mix with the original. This is not going to give a hi-fi result, but can add low frequencies where you can't pull them out with EQ cos they just aren't there. Also try to run the signal through a pitch shift an octave down, and then low-pass filter. Waves MaxxBass can help sometimes too, or compression on the low frequencies. --Mark www.burningrome.com