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From: "Mark Lennox" <mark@...>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 at 11:07:43 AM
Subject: [LUG] [LAW] Apple...
Message #110216
After talking to a mate who sells Macs for a living, he told me that I would likely need to get a dual processor Mac to stay 'stay in place' in processing terms, durability etc.. Priced it up, Dual 1GHz Mac with reasonable specs, oh and a monitor (fucks sake...) - over 6000 euros. This means I would not have a dual monitor option that I currently have. Why so expensive? I can build an equivalent PC system myself for a third of that! I presume standard SIMMS, IDE Drives, Video cards and monitors work with a Mac? Or am I wrong here? Could dump a lot of costs by choosing non-Mac branded equipment and just buy a basic box- or could I? I feel sorry for the Apple users too. AFAIK Apple no longer supports OS9? Obviously no Logic upgrades for them then, so all those using an old system will now have to upgrade their macs so that they can have an upgrade path with Logic. How much do you get for a G3 or a power computer nowadays?? Emagic must have way over extended themselves with the Logic Control and their rinky dink audio interfaces (2 inputs anyone? crazy....). I really hope that there isnt too much 'rationalisation' going on in the Human Resources department in Emagic/Apple. I'm totally at a loss as to what I'm going to do. Instead of upgrading my studio in the baby steps I had hoped, now I am going to have to take some 'Giant Steps'. I would imagine that Emagic/Apple will offer some kind of an offer to PC users but I would also envisage them asking us to take up this offer within a certain time period or the deal will be off - feeling the pressure anyone?? -- Mark Lennox Technical Consultant ENDUSER Suite 40 Guinness Enterprise Centre Taylors Lane Dublin 8 Ireland Tel: +353 1 4100 665 Fax: +353 1 4100 985 web: http://www.enduser.com --
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From: David Eager <beager@...>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 at 11:54:40 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAW] Apple...
Message #110241
This is a reply to #110216.
Mark Lennox wrote: > I feel sorry for the Apple users too. AFAIK Apple no longer supports OS9? > Obviously no Logic upgrades for them then, so all those using an old system > will now have to upgrade their macs so that they can have an upgrade path > with Logic. How much do you get for a G3 or a power computer nowadays?? I'm running OSX [10.1] just fine on a beige G3/233. Dunno if I will be able to run Logic on it in OSX [non-native usb] , but Spark LE runs just fine. Of course it can't run a whole heap of plugs, but thats to be expected on such an old [slow] machine. I would think a G3/400 or G4/400 would still be quite useable with Logic/OSX. Dave Eager
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From: reverie@...
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 at 12:26:18 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAW] Apple...
Message #110277
This is a reply to #110216.
Mark Lennox wrote: >Priced it up, Dual 1GHz Mac with reasonable specs, oh and a monitor (fucks >sake...) - over 6000 euros. This means I would not have a dual monitor >option that I currently have. > I think not. We have been through this before. A top end Mac will cost you about 30% more than a top end PC with comparable hardware. The Superdrive alone is almost $400. Also Macs come standard with dual head cards and you can use the monitors you already have. ....and before pricing, wait three weeks. New Macs will be out and should be significantly improved including DDR Ram in the pro machines for the first time, which is considered by many to be the bottleneck in Mac performance as the processor is generally conceded to be 50% or more efficient clock for clock than a P$. Take care Jesse Widener
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