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From: "Ray Keefe" <ray@...>
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 at 6:30:58 PM
Subject: [GEN] Conforming Logic tempo to an audio track.
Message #107942
>Every now and then I am given a CD of just music for which a singer to demo >over (usually to demo the singer or the song). In Pro Tools, I simply import >the audio/song onto a stereo track and then adjust the grid to the music by >putting a grid marker every 30 seconds or so that lines up with a eat of the >song. This way the grid will always line up and not drift, and only takes a >couple minutes to set up. >How can I do this in Logic? I know there are no beat markers, just a tempo map >(which may be how it's done?). Thanks for any adivce. >PS - Simply finding the closest tempo doesn't always work as the audio usually >drifts (though not always). Hi Colin, There are several ways to do this. The 2 I use the most are: 1. record a midi track and tap out the beat using a keyboard. One beat at the start of each bar is more than enough. Reclock the song using this as the guide sequence. 2. create a copy of an audio track that runs the entire length of the song and break it into chunks. For each chunk (or region) select the region and also set up the locators for the bars you want that region to occupy. Now select the function tempo->adjust tempo using object length and locators. For the first instance, select global as this will set the initial tempo. For each region after that select 'create' and this will insert the appropriate tempo for the start of that region. You need to start from the beginning of the song and work your way through to the end. The guide sequnce method is probably the simplest to set up but it can generate a tempo change per bar. If the tempo is fairly consistent then you can have thin out the changes. Ray
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From: Colin Miller <snoopy@...>
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 at 10:59:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Conforming Logic tempo to an audio track.
Message #107961
This is a reply to #107942.
> The guide sequnce method is probably the simplest to set up but it can > generate a tempo change per bar. If the tempo is fairly consistent then > you can have thin out the changes. > > Ray Wow, Thanks Ray and Tim! These sound like great idears and I can't wait to try em out tomorrow (with a manual handy). Just one more question (which wlll prolly be addressed in the manual). After tapping in the tempo, is it hard to adjust the tempo changes in the tempo window? Is it kinda just like guessing numbers, or is it easy to associate the position with something in the audio? (I'm guessing not, but I will find out tomorrow when I mess with it). For instance if my tapping is a bit off in one spot and I just want to neaten it up a bit. I know this is probably very basic use of Logic, but keep in mind I haven't done it before since I have always depended on PT for such functions, so it's a bit new to me. Hopefully in time I will be able to merge over to Logic completely. :-) Again, thanks for the help! :-) Colin Miller
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From: Tim.Dylla@...
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 at 6:03:12 AM
Subject: RE: [LUG] [GEN] Conforming Logic tempo to an audio track.
Message #107977
This is a reply to #107961.
From: Colin Miller [mailto:snoopy@...] > Wow, Thanks Ray and Tim! > For instance if my tapping is a bit off in one spot and I just want > to neaten it up a bit. I know this is probably very basic use of Logic, > but keep in mind I haven't done it before since I have always depended > on PT for such functions, so it's a bit new to me. Hopefully in time I > will be able to merge over to Logic completely. :-) > Again, thanks for the help! :-) Colin, you can always edit the guide sequence (your tapped midi-events). I do it by getting a good old Drumstick-sound from my very good old Proteus 2/Orchestral for tapping, then rehearse and edit my approaches to be on beat, and then ...reclock... :) Tim
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From: Gregory Anderson <ggaslp@...>
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 at 10:11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Conforming Logic tempo to an audio track.
Message #107980
This is a reply to #107961.
> if my tapping is a bit off in one spot and I just want to neaten > it up a bit. I always clean it up before reclocking. I tap it out with a drum track, and listen to the midi and audio together with an event float available for nudging beats to and fro. Although the tempo changes generated by the reclock are the same as any other in the tempo list, I would think from a precision standpoint it would be more difficult to clean things up with tempo "nudging" after the reclock. Gregory
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