Every now and then I am given a CD of just music for which a singer to demo over (usually to demo the singer or the song). In Pro Tools, I simply import the audio/song onto a stereo track and then adjust the grid to the music by putting a grid marker every 30 seconds or so that lines up with a eat of the song. This way the grid will always line up and not drift, and only takes a couple minutes to set up. How can I do this in Logic? I know there are no beat markers, just a tempo map (which may be how it's done?). Thanks for any adivce. Colin Miller PS - Simply finding the closest tempo doesn't always work as the audio usually drifts (though not always).

> -----Original Message----- > From: Colin Miller [mailto:snoopy@...] > Subject: [LUG] [GEN] Conforming Logic tempo to an audio track. > > > Every now and then I am given a CD of just music for which a > singer to demo > over (usually to demo the singer or the song). In Pro Tools, I > simply import > the audio/song onto a stereo track and then adjust the grid to > the music by > putting a grid marker every 30 seconds or so that lines up with a > eat of the > song. This way the grid will always line up and not drift, and > only takes a > couple minutes to set up. > > How can I do this in Logic? > > Colin Miller > > Hello, Colin! Maybe you already know these following suggestions, IMHO they are fine tools for similar situations: Try to get used with the Reclock-Feature. You can make a Midi-Sequence by pressing ie. the sustain pedal on every Bar, and use it to generate a tempochange-list by reclocking. You find it under Options->Tempo->Reclock Song... But if you're certain about the timing of the song (ie. Techno, or other music with rock solid metrum) you can use automatic tempo matching... you know this feature, don't you?! Regards, Tim

--- In logic-users@y..., Colin Miller <snoopy@m...> wrote: > Every now and then I am given a CD of just music for which a singer to demo > over (usually to demo the singer or the song). In Pro Tools, I simply import > the audio/song onto a stereo track and then adjust the grid to the music by > putting a grid marker every 30 seconds or so that lines up with a eat of the > song. This way the grid will always line up and not drift, and only takes a > couple minutes to set up. > > How can I do this in Logic? I know there are no beat markers, just a tempo map > (which may be how it's done?). Thanks for any adivce. > > Colin Miller > I have a different approach, and welcome comments: In the audio editor window (double click on file in Audio page), I move the start point of the region to the closest bar (e.g. Bar 1). Open a tempo list window. Create a tempo event at this start position, if it's not there already. Now if you move the tempo at this bar in the tempo list, you should note that the bar numbers change also move in the open audio editor window (or else set "views" to "bar/beats/ticks"). Move the tempo so that the next downbeat of Bar 2 lines up with the downbeat "visually". Say you've got a straight 4/4 hi- hat intro (heh), then you just adjust the tempo until all the quarter notes line up with the markers above the waveform display. Create a new tempo event at bar 2...then move this tempo so that the downbeat matches up with Bar 3.... etc. Continue this process until you're done. You may be lucky and "find" the right tempo once, and that's it for the whole song! On other arrangements, you may have to do this process every 4 bars, every bar, or maybe sub divisions if there is lot of rubato stuff going on. It's of course also easier to do if the attack transients are easy to see, like a rim shot, hihats, big crash... etc. I find this method more surefire than trying to play the beat and then reclocking. But then again, I guess if the song's tempo is really all over the place, perhaps reclocking is the way to go. At any rate, it's a bit closer to your ProTools method by the sounds of it. Hope that helps Ken