I have heard the sound all the time in some Trance forms, i'm told the effect is actually a resonating chord chopped up to the on/off groove send to a noise gate. How can you do this in Logic? I tried this with the automation, but its a bit fiddly and didnt sound right. Better would be for someway to punch out the groove in a midi track and send it to a plugin. Anybody know any otherway that noise gates can be manipulated to a groove. I know that cubase has a special midi plugin for doing just this. Thanks

"djblueberry" <djblueberry@y...> wrote: > I have heard the sound all the time in some Trance forms, > i'm told the effect is actually a resonating chord chopped up > to the on/off groove send to a noise gate. > How can you do this in Logic? I tried this with the > automation, but its a bit fiddly and didnt sound right. Better > would be for someway to punch out the groove in a midi track > and send it to a plugin. > Anybody know any otherway that noise gates can be manipulated > to a groove. I know that cubase has a special midi plugin for > doing just this. Pretty easy if you got the right gear, which in this case means Logic 5. You just use the side chain input of the Noise gate (inserted on the track you wanna chop)! Send the chopping track to this sidechain, and you're rolling! :-) If you don't wanna hear the chopper itself, just output it to some unused output! Flemming Bloch Mindless Studio Aarhus, Denmark

Thoughts from the mind of djblueberry, 30-04-2002: >I have heard the sound all the time in some Trance forms, i'm told >the effect is actually a resonating chord chopped up to the on/off >groove send to a noise gate. > >How can you do this in Logic? I tried this with the automation, but >its a bit fiddly and didnt sound right. Better would be for someway >to punch out the groove in a midi track and send it to a plugin. Download Len's percolator patch from www.swiftkick.com. It doesn't use a noise gate, but simply switches the volume to 0/127 when triggered by a miditrack. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

--- In logic-users@y..., Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> wrote: > >I have heard the sound all the time in some Trance forms, i'm told > >the effect is actually a resonating chord chopped up to the on/off > >groove send to a noise gate. > > > >How can you do this in Logic? I tried this with the automation, but > >its a bit fiddly and didnt sound right. Better would be for someway > >to punch out the groove in a midi track and send it to a plugin. > > Download Len's percolator patch from www.swiftkick.com. It doesn't > use a noise gate, but simply switches the volume to 0/127 when > triggered by a miditrack. The effect you're referring to has been around since the 80's. You can easily create the same effect with Logic's gate. It's the same process as you would with a hardware gate. The usual method of triggering a gate is by inserting a sound (usually a hi hat) into the sidechain to trigger the opening and closing of the gate. In Logic it's no different. Open a gate on a track that has a sustained pad (or whatever other sound you like). Now go to the sidechain and select the track that has the trigger source. A hi hat works best. Once you get the sound you want make sure you turn off the source track so that you only hear the gated effect. Either mute it in the track mixer or don't select any outputs for it. Although the effect has been around for a while it's still pretty cool and if used creatively (not just 16th notes) it can fit into a lot of styles of music. You can use a closed hat and every few beats throw in an open hat to get some cool syncopation effects. Maybe even a few closed triplets. You get the idea ... have fun. Victor

> Open a gate on a track that has a sustained pad > (or whatever other sound you like). Now go to the sidechain and > select the track that has the trigger source. A hi hat works best. > Once you get the sound you want make sure you turn off the source > track so that you only hear the gated effect. -- as far as i'm aware the only available sidechain source is an audio track, not an audio instrument or midi track. am i correct, or have i missed a trick? andy

if your using a software instrument as your chopper track just do a bus send (ideally 0.0+) and turn off the output off if you don't wanna hear it as stated above so all you really gota do is use another bus channel if your using a sw ins as ur chopper! peaceee