I am using Logic Gold (4.8.1) as an 8 channel Hard Disk recorder for recording live bands.After the recording session I have been mixing with an external desk for channel faders, EQ and effects processors with good results but repeatability of fader movements is a problem. After reading the threads a while ago on using Logic as a mixer I realised the benefits of fader automation. However, moving faders with a mouse is a pain because I always overshoot and end up having to edit the changes in the event list to get smooth fades. Is there an easier way of fading up or down like an Audio Hyperdraw? I know Logic Control would solve the problem but I can't afford such luxury just yet ! Phil

Could anyone tell me how to copy automation data in Logic 5.10? If i draw out a curve in the arrange page etc....lets say under a loop, and then i repeat the loop later in the track, how can i copy the automation data to easily repeat it underneat the loop each time i use that loop!? Thanks! Rob

From: Phil Godfrey [mailto:phil.godfrey@...] > I am using Logic Gold (4.8.1) as an 8 channel Hard Disk recorder for > recording live bands.After the recording session I have been > mixing with an external desk for channel faders, EQ and effects > processors with good results but repeatability of fader movements is > a problem. After reading the threads a while ago on using Logic as a > mixer I realised the benefits of fader automation. However, moving > faders with a mouse is a pain because I always overshoot and end up > having to edit the changes in the event list to get smooth fades. > Is there an easier way of fading up or down like an Audio Hyperdraw? > I know Logic Control would solve the problem but I can't afford > such luxury just yet ! if you don't want to use Hyperdraw (which I prefer), anything that generates continuous controller data could be used to manipulate faders...you just need an environment to interpret the incoming data. If you want something cheap -- I think there are some control surfaces out there (doesn't MIDIman make one?) that are much less expensive than LC. Skip

On 4/30/02 1:06 PM, "Rob Corbett" <LogicNYC@...> wrote: > Could anyone tell me how to copy automation data in Logic 5.10? > > If i draw out a curve in the arrange page etc....lets say under a loop, and > then i repeat the loop later in the track, how can i copy the automation > data to easily repeat it underneat the loop each time i use that loop!? Go options > Track automation > Move current track automation data to object Then copy the object That's the only way I know to do it accurately as of now Malcolm ----------------- Malcolm Payne Music NYC http://www.malcolmpayne.com

Malcolm Payne wrote: >On 4/30/02 1:06 PM, "Rob Corbett" <LogicNYC@...> wrote: > >>Could anyone tell me how to copy automation data in Logic 5.10? >> >>If i draw out a curve in the arrange page etc....lets say under a loop, and >>then i repeat the loop later in the track, how can i copy the automation >>data to easily repeat it underneat the loop each time i use that loop!? >> >> >Go options > Track automation > Move current track automation data to object >Then copy the object >That's the only way I know to do it accurately as of now > I'd personally stick with hyperdraw if you really want to copy automation along with the objects. It's more foolproof it it's more bug free. :-) Bye, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@... Belway Productions - http://www.belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

Will we have to send back CD's as before, or do we simply get codes to enter into the XSkey? Mine are order - just curious. Regards - Colin

> Will we have to send back CD's as before, or do we simply get codes > to enter into the XSkey? All currently shipping products come with codes for the XSKey. MMM -- Markus Fritze Emagic Soft- und Hardware GmbH <http://www.emagic.de>; Chief Developer New Technology Integration, Mac OS

> > Will we have to send back CD's as before, or do we simply get > > codes to enter into the XSkey? Markus Fritze <mfritze@m...> wrote: > All currently shipping products come with codes for the XSKey. Three weeks ago purchased the EVP88 and ES1 and NO codes of the XSKey was inclosed. Since then I have been trying to obtain the codes with no luck yet. I was notified by EmagicUSA yesterday that I should have the codes later this week. I will let you all know how this turns out. It is important to ask the vendor if the XSKey codes are in the box before your buy!

> if you don't want to use Hyperdraw (which I prefer), anything that > generates continuous controller data could be used to manipulate > faders...you just need an environment to interpret the incoming > data. Skip, Your reply made me go back and experiment again because actually I did want to use Hyperdraw on audio regions. Its just that the manual implied that Hyperdraw is only for midi sequences and when I selected Hyperdraw in the Arrange Page for an Audio region nothing happened. However, I now realise that the only reason that I couldn't see the Hyperdraw editor was because I hadn't enlarged the Arrange Page enough to see the Hyperdraw editor below the audio display. So I thank you for your reply. You have answered my question and I can do what I want, but your comments on using a midi generator as a fader control surface is also worth thinking about. (At least until I can afford Logic Control ! Thanks again, Phil

> > Will we have to send back CD's as before, or do we simply get codes > > to enter into the XSkey? > > All currently shipping products come with codes for the XSKey. > > > MMM > -- > Markus Fritze Ausgezeichnet!!! Bob

> Three weeks ago purchased the EVP88 and ES1 and NO codes of the XSKey > was inclosed. Since then I have been trying to obtain the codes with Yes, there are still packages in the market without codes. We already have a quick solution for this and this solution will be up later this week or next week. Contact Emagic USA if you bought such a package in the USA. MMM -- Markus Fritze Emagic Soft- und Hardware GmbH <http://www.emagic.de>; Chief Developer New Technology Integration, Mac OS

Thoughts from the mind of Malcolm Payne, 30-04-2002: >On 4/30/02 1:06 PM, "Rob Corbett" <LogicNYC@...> wrote: >> Could anyone tell me how to copy automation data in Logic 5.10? >> >> If i draw out a curve in the arrange page etc....lets say under a loop, and >> then i repeat the loop later in the track, how can i copy the automation > > data to easily repeat it underneat the loop each time i use that loop!? > >Go options > Track automation > Move current track automation data to object >Then copy the object >That's the only way I know to do it accurately as of now How about opening the... what's it called? not the Automation Event List, but the other one -- arrange-window-like view of all automation tracks. Keycommand only. There you find all automation in sequences -- copy, paste, etc. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

On 5/1/02 10:44 AM, "Hendrik Jan Veenstra" <h@...> wrote: > How about opening the... what's it called? not the Automation Event > List, but the other one -- arrange-window-like view of all automation > tracks. Keycommand only. There you find all automation in sequences > -- copy, paste, etc. Hendrik, I'm not aware of this one, can you give me the actual key command name? Thanx Malcolm ----------------- Malcolm Payne Music NYC http://www.malcolmpayne.com

> > How about opening the... what's it called? not the Automation Event > > List, but the other one -- arrange-window-like view of all automation > > tracks. Keycommand only. There you find all automation in sequences > > -- copy, paste, etc. > > > Hendrik, I'm not aware of this one, can you give me the actual key command > name? > > Thanx > > Malcolm Just open the key command window and do a find for the word "Automation." I am away from Logic by a few miles currently but amongst the 15 or so entries that result from the find is one that has the word "Folder" in it. That is it. Bob

On 5/1/02 2:04 PM, "splugapass" <bobandmaria@...> wrote: > Just open the key command window and do a find for the > word "Automation." I am away from Logic by a few miles currently but > amongst the 15 or so entries that result from the find is one that > has the word "Folder" in it. That is it. > > Bob Cool, This is an easier way of repeating automation data, thanks for the tip. I wonder why they thought it necessary to create object data in the arrange window when you use this? The really cool implementation (IMO) would be to manipulate data in the automation folder window, and then when you close that window, the data is automatically transformed to track data in the arrange window Thanks again Malcolm ----------------- Malcolm Payne Music NYC http://www.malcolmpayne.com

> On 5/1/02 10:44 AM, "Hendrik Jan Veenstra" <h@...> wrote: > >> How about opening the... what's it called? not the Automation Event >> List, but the other one -- arrange-window-like view of all automation >> tracks. Keycommand only. There you find all automation in sequences >> -- copy, paste, etc. > > > Hendrik, I'm not aware of this one, can you give me the actual key command > name? Automation folder - It's not a folder but an automation arrange page, and you can even mute automation from here. Regards David Tobin Wow and Flutter

Thoughts from the mind of Malcolm Payne, 01-05-2002: >On 5/1/02 10:44 AM, "Hendrik Jan Veenstra" <h@...> wrote: > >> How about opening the... what's it called? not the Automation Event >> List, but the other one -- arrange-window-like view of all automation >> tracks. Keycommand only. There you find all automation in sequences > > -- copy, paste, etc. > >Hendrik, I'm not aware of this one, can you give me the actual key command >name? "Automation folder". In the Key Commands Window, it's right below "Automation Event Edit", near the end of the "Global Commands" section. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

Von: David Tobin [mailto:wowandflutter@...] > Automation folder - > > It's not a folder but an automation arrange page, and you can even mute > automation from here. Yeah, and also lock to SMPTE-Position! (my way out of trouble with Tempo-changes... yeeehhaaaa!) Wishes, Tim Dylla