Mac OS XSKey Driver for Logic 4 series April 30th 2002 The Mac OS XSKey Driver enables you to run your existing Logic 4 Mac OS version and plug-ins using your new authorized XSKey. A free download of this driver is now available. We regret that it is not possible to offer a similar solution for Windows customers due to technical reasons. MMM -- Markus Fritze Emagic Soft- und Hardware GmbH <http://www.emagic.de>; Chief Developer New Technology Integration, Mac OS

On 30/4/02 4:56 pm, "Markus Fritze" <mfritze@...> wrote: > Mac OS XSKey Driver for Logic 4 series > April 30th 2002 > > The Mac OS XSKey Driver enables you to run your existing Logic 4 Mac OS > version and plug-ins using your new authorized XSKey. A free download of > this driver is now available. We regret that it is not possible to offer a > similar solution for Windows customers due to technical reasons. Hi Markus, I would say thank you from the bottom of my heart but being as there is not actually a link on the site to start the download, only the title of the section, I shall have to call you a tease! Gareth

> I would say thank you from the bottom of my heart but being as there > is not actually a link on the site to start the download This driver is (almost) especially for you :-) MMM -- Markus Fritze Emagic Soft- und Hardware GmbH <http://www.emagic.de>; Chief Developer New Technology Integration, Mac OS

Hi Gareth, > Hi Markus, > I would say thank you from the bottom of my heart but being as there > is not actually a link on the site to start the download, only the title of > the section, I shall have to call you a tease! > Gareth It is actually here; http://www.emagic.de/english/support/download/toolsmac.html YAVUZ AKYAZICI Guitar Player, Composer http://home.earthlink.net/~yavuza/

>Mac OS XSKey Driver for Logic 4 series >April 30th 2002 > >The Mac OS XSKey Driver enables you to run your existing Logic 4 Mac OS >version and plug-ins using your new authorized XSKey. A free download of >this driver is now available. We regret that it is not possible to offer a >similar solution for Windows customers due to technical reasons. Thanks :-) Huh..and I managed to read this as Mac OS X skey is available :-) :-) Cheers -- Check out the web page for my band: Now solo works also: New home address : http://koti.welho.com/jpennane

--- In logic-users@y..., Markus Fritze <mfritze@m...> wrote: > Mac OS XSKey Driver for Logic 4 series > April 30th 2002 > > The Mac OS XSKey Driver enables you to run your existing Logic 4 Mac OS > version and plug-ins using your new authorized XSKey. A free download of > this driver is now available. We regret that it is not possible to offer a > similar solution for Windows customers due to technical reasons. This seems stupid to me. Didn't we all send our v.4 disks back to emagic. Why would we still have the software. Oh yeah, woo hoo. I can use version 4 until I have to reformat my Hard Drive. Do we get new disks too?

> This seems stupid to me. Didn't we all send our v.4 disks back to > emagic. Why would we still have the software. Oh yeah, woo hoo. I can > use version 4 until I have to reformat my Hard Drive. Ehm, just make a backup... MMM -- Markus Fritze Emagic Soft- und Hardware GmbH <http://www.emagic.de>; Chief Developer New Technology Integration, Mac OS

fucanay@... writes: > >This seems stupid to me. Didn't we all send our v.4 disks back to >emagic. Why would we still have the software. Oh yeah, woo hoo. I can >use version 4 until I have to reformat my Hard Drive. Do we get new >disks too? The contents of the Logic4 CD aren't copy protected. It's merely the dongle that allows Logic to boot or not. Sending back the CD was only for proving that you owned Logic4 (as opposed to Logic3). So not having that Logic4 CD doesn't mean you can never re-install Logic4. Just make a backup copy right now, in case your hard drive cacks out. This is very different from the plugin CDs (EXS24, EVP88, ES1, ESB....). However, your XSKey contains the authorizations (or you will soon get these) if you own any of these. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants (Tastes awful, but it works) Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

Markus Fritze wrote: > The Mac OS XSKey Driver enables you to run your existing > Logic 4 Mac OS version and plug-ins using your new > authorized XSKey. A free download of this driver is now > available. We regret that it is not possible to offer a > similar solution for Windows customers due to technical > reasons. Great news, great solution, very fair and equitable and reassuring. As one of the noisier protestors regarding this issue it is gratifying to see the response, and it speaks well for Emagic, and certainly pushes my opinion far more toward the positive than it where it was a few weeks ago.

>> I would say thank you from the bottom of my heart but being as there >> is not actually a link on the site to start the download On 30/4/02 6:11 pm, "Markus Fritze" <mfritze@...> wrote: > This driver is (almost) especially for you :-) Hi Markus I've found the link now but I had to use Explorer to see it, Navigator showed all the other links on the page but just a title for the Xskey driver. Cheers Markus, Gareth

On 4/30/02 11:56 AM, "Markus Fritze" <mfritze@...> wrote: > Mac OS XSKey Driver for Logic 4 series > April 30th 2002 > > The Mac OS XSKey Driver enables you to run your existing Logic 4 Mac OS > version and plug-ins using your new authorized XSKey. A free download of > this driver is now available. We regret that it is not possible to offer a > similar solution for Windows customers due to technical reasons. Great news Markus, thanks. Is this driver for V4 only, or does it handle V4 and V5 interchangeably? Regards Malcolm ----------------- Malcolm Payne Music NYC http://www.malcolmpayne.com

> Great news Markus, thanks. Is this driver for V4 only, or does it handle V4 > and V5 interchangeably? You can use them without any problems (but you probably can't use both applications at the same time :-) MMM -- Markus Fritze Emagic Soft- und Hardware GmbH <http://www.emagic.de>; Chief Developer New Technology Integration, Mac OS

Thoughts from the mind of fucanay, 30-04-2002: >--- In logic-users@y..., Markus Fritze <mfritze@m...> wrote: >> Mac OS XSKey Driver for Logic 4 series >> April 30th 2002 >> > > The Mac OS XSKey Driver enables you to run your existing Logic 4 Mac OS > > version and plug-ins using your new authorized XSKey. A free download of > > this driver is now available. We regret that it is not possible to offer a >> similar solution for Windows customers due to technical reasons. > >This seems stupid to me. Didn't we all send our v.4 disks back to >emagic. Why would we still have the software. Oh yeah, woo hoo. I can >use version 4 until I have to reformat my Hard Drive. Do we get new >disks too? You mean you don't have a backup of your installed software? Tsk, tsk... Then maybe now is the time to make such a backup. Having to reformat a HD (when on earth does that ever happen btw?) should never cause loss of crucial data -- such as your one and only copy of Logic 4.x. Besides: after weeks of complaints by various people that they can't use their v4 anymore, Emagic now comes with a super-deluxe & free solution. And one of the first reactions is "this seems stupid to me". Oh well... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

>It is actually here; > >http://www.emagic.de/english/support/download/toolsmac.html As of this morning, there's a heading there, but no download link. Has it been moved?

On 1/5/02 4:53 pm, "Sean McCoy" <osr@...> wrote: > >> It is actually here; >> >> http://www.emagic.de/english/support/download/toolsmac.html > > As of this morning, there's a heading there, but no download link. Has it > been moved? If you look at the site with Netscape Navigator, the heading shows up but not the link, if you look with Explorer, it should be fine - weird but at least you get your driver!! Gareth [note from admin - looks like the direct link to the file is http://www.emagic-mirror.com/pub/drivers/l4xskeydriver.sit or ftp://ftp2.emagic.de/pub/drivers/l4xskeydriver.sit ]

From: "Markus Fritze" <mfritze@...> > > I would say thank you from the bottom of my heart but being as there > > is not actually a link on the site to start the download > > This driver is (almost) especially for you :-) > > > MMM I may be one of those "almosts". ;-) Thanx, Markus! Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de

At 11:01 PM 05/01/2002 +0100, you wrote: > On 1/5/02 4:53 pm, "Sean McCoy" <osr@...> wrote: > > > > >> It is actually here; > >> > >> http://www.emagic.de/english/support/download/toolsmac.html > > > > As of this morning, there's a heading there, but no download link. Has it > > been moved? > > > If you look at the site with Netscape Navigator, the heading shows up but >not the link, if you look with Explorer, it should be fine - weird but at >least you get your driver!! > Gareth You're right, Gareth, thanks! Go figure.

--- In logic-users@y..., Markus Fritze <mfritze@m...> wrote: > The Mac OS XSKey Driver enables you to run your existing > Logic 4 Mac OS version and plug-ins using your new authorized > XSKey. That's basically a good thing but this driver doesn't work on my 9600/300 with OS 9.1. When connecting an old dongle I can work with the old versions (4.73, 4.81) but not with this driver and an otherwise fine working LAMP 5.0/XSKey combination. Because I'm in the process to upgrade my three Logic Platinum installs I don't want to send in the old version 4 dongle until I can get this driver to work. Any ideas? Could it be that this driver is not compatible with USB PCI cards? Nirto Karsten Fischer

> That's basically a good thing but this driver doesn't work on my > 9600/300 with OS 9.1. When connecting an old dongle I can work with > the old versions (4.73, 4.81) but not with this driver and an > otherwise fine working LAMP 5.0/XSKey combination. Sorry, it is the same communication code as in Logic. We tested it on many machines without any problem. I really don't know. MMM -- Markus Fritze Emagic Soft- und Hardware GmbH <http://www.emagic.de>; Chief Developer New Technology Integration, Mac OS

From: "nikafi" <nkfischer@...> > That's basically a good thing but this driver doesn't work on my > 9600/300 with OS 9.1. When connecting an old dongle I can work with > the old versions (4.73, 4.81) but not with this driver and an > otherwise fine working LAMP 5.0/XSKey combination. Because I'm in the > process to upgrade my three Logic Platinum installs I don't want to > send in the old version 4 dongle until I can get this driver to work. > Any ideas? Could it be that this driver is not compatible with USB PCI > cards? It works with my OrangeLink+ (USB/Firewire-Combo); I´m on a beige G3 and MacOS 9.2.2 though. Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de

Markus Fritze <mfritze@m...> wrote: > Mac OS XSKey Driver for Logic 4 series > April 30th 2002 > > The Mac OS XSKey Driver enables you to run your existing > Logic 4 Mac OS version and plug-ins using your new authorized > XSKey. A free download of this driver is now available. We > regret that it is not possible to offer a similar solution for > Windows customers due to technical reasons. Brilliant!! This addresses so many of the issues folks have raised with the upgrade. Thanks to Emagic for being responsive. Dayo

--- In logic-users@y..., Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> wrote: > > > The Mac OS XSKey Driver enables you to run your existing Logic 4 Mac OS > > > version and plug-ins using your new authorized XSKey. A free download of > > > this driver is now available. We regret that it is not possible to offer a > >> similar solution for Windows customers due to technical reasons. Well, my thought is, why did you make a backup of 4.8 when you sent your dongle back? Did you have some kind of dongle workaround? I sure don't. It didn't seem to me like I would ever be ABLE to use it again. The registration information for the Version 5 upgrade didn't say "Be Sure To Back Up Logic 4.8". Plus, I know people are still using 4.8, but why would eMagic spend their time supporting old versions of their software whn there are plenty of things to be done on the new version. If you want to use 4.8, don't buy the upgrade. But I personally wanted development time to go toward the future and not the past. Have fun with 4.8 fucanay

> Plus, I know people are still using 4.8, but why would eMagic spend their time > supporting old versions of their software whn there are plenty of things to be > done on the new version It's called Good Faith. The way it works is, you pay Emagic hundreds and hundreds of dollars for the use of their software, and, in consideration for your investment in their product, they offer support for that product over some reasonable amount of time following the date of purchase. What do you folks think, is two years a reasonable amount of time? When did 4.8 come out? The fact that it is no longer the most recent version does not make it "old." I don't expect Emagic to ever release 4.9, but I do have every right to expect them to do whatever they have to to maintain the value of their second-most-recent version. God Save Dave Oppenheim ------------------------ Paul Heitsch

> > Plus, I know people are still using 4.8, but why would eMagic spend their time > > supporting old versions of their software whn there are plenty of things to be > > done on the new version > > It's called Good Faith. The way it works is, you pay Emagic hundreds and > hundreds of dollars for the use of their software, and, in consideration for > your investment in their product, they offer support for that product over > some reasonable amount of time following the date of purchase. > > What do you folks think, is two years a reasonable amount of time? > > When did 4.8 come out? The fact that it is no longer the most recent version > does not make it "old." I don't expect Emagic to ever release 4.9, but I do > have every right to expect them to do whatever they have to to maintain the > value of their second-most-recent version. The flaw to your very reasonable argument is that 4.8.1 is a supported version of 4.0.0 which has been out about 2 yrs ... I believe updates have been free from 4.0 up to 4.8.1. Thus by your own argument you are no longer worthy of support. DOH! Tony Perretta

Tony - > The flaw to your very reasonable argument is that 4.8.1 is a supported > version of 4.0.0 which has been out about 2 yrs ... I believe updates > have been free from 4.0 up to 4.8.1. Thus by your own argument you are > no longer worthy of support. By my own argument I am worthy of support for the next 17 months, as I purchased 4.8.1 outright, not as an upgrade, for approx. $700.00 in October of last year. - PH

--- In logic-users@y..., Paul Heitsch <pheitsch@e...> wrote: > > Plus, I know people are still using 4.8, but why would eMagic spend their time > > supporting old versions of their software whn there are plenty of things to be > > done on the new version > > It's called Good Faith. The way it works is, you pay Emagic hundreds and > hundreds of dollars for the use of their software, and, in consideration for > your investment in their product, they offer support for that product over > some reasonable amount of time following the date of purchase. > > What do you folks think, is two years a reasonable amount of time? > Agreed, and since no one version is perfect, in fact since the last few were so quirky and different, it makes total sense for them to stay alive, for archiving reasons if for no other. Many of us have 4.0 files that will be scrambled if we try to open them in 5.1