[Note from Admin - since this is OT, please reply privately or to the Logic-TDM@yahoogroups.com list, thanks!] The option for "built -in", that is, native sound output has disappeared from my sound manager options. I used to be able to pick between Digidesign and the Mac outs but no more. This happened to me once before and I'm not sure how I got it working again. I've tossed the Mac sound pref.'s but the problem persists. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Jon -- Jon Huck The Fur Ones http://www.jhuck.com http://www.mp3.com/thefurones http://www.monorailrecords.com/