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From: "technodork_2000" <technodork_2000@...>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 at 5:05:16 AM
Subject: LAMP: Logic 5 - EXS24 not loading properly? Other notes of interest!!!!.
Message #98232
I am on day one of my Logic 5 journey, and the only real issue I am having now is getting my old Logic 4.8.1 EXS24 library to load up. Initially, it is taking much longer to load a stereo EXS24 instrument than previously in 4.8.1. Initially, the demo EXS24 has an abbreviated version of the EXS factory instruments to choose from, and these load up fine, but when I drag my EXS Samples and Sampler Instruments folders into the Logic 5.0 folder from Logic 4.8.1, EXS will not load any of my patches (I have around 20gb of samples). The patch names show up, but no loading of samples ever takes place. If I strip it back to say just one or two EXS insturments in the folder all together, they load up fine, although slow. My first thoughts were that since this is a trial version of EXS24 that we have initially, is there some limitation on instrument usage? I transfered out the factory library and tried using just one of my own EXS sampler instruments from Distorted Reality, it worked fine. Then I tried Distorted Reality folder along with the Factory EXS folder, and it still worked fine, so I then retransferred my full 20gb library in, and I get nothing, I choose an instrument, waited upwards of 5 minutes to allow time for it to scan folders, but the mouse pointer never indicates that any processing or searching is happening(i.e. small clock icon with moving clock hands) I know it states in the manual that full REX2 import etc. is not implemented until the full install of EXS24 is completed(serial # entered into XSKey). Another item I noticed was an initial patch labeled "untitled" in the EXS patch window, in the submenus that followed the "untitled" patch was a mirrow image of my full 20gb of instrument patch names, yet no samples load from this either. I am confused, I am sure I must be overlooking something obvious here, but I played with it for 2-3 hours with no luck. Hopefully this isn't some goofy Dual Processor bug or something..... Has anyone else experienced slow EXS24 load times with Logic 5.0? Other small notes of interest, there seem to be new presets for many of the built in Logic Plug-Ins, even some of the older plugs. The ES-1 enhancements are very nice touches, all of its presets are better organized into subfolders by type, and the new ES-M bass mono synth is very useable as well, many TB-303 like presets. REX2 import in the arrange window is working like a charm, full preview of REX2 loops at song tempo works beautifully on the MAC, unlike some previous reports I read. OMF file import and export appear fully in place. All this automation is a godsend. If you have been doing any large format mixes, especially 64 + tracks (after having submixed everything possible) with the old hyperdraw method, this is going to cut your work time in half. Having a blast automating all my VST plugs, feedbacks, filters, etc. Thanks Macintosh G4 Dual 533, 200 GB Storage, 1GB Ram, OS 9.2.2, Logic 5.0, MOTU 2408MKII, Unitor8 MKII.
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From: "stevensugar" <steffen.harning@...>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 at 9:32:30 AM
Subject: Re: LAMP: Logic 5 - EXS24 not loading properly? Other notes of interest!!!!.
Message #98241
This is a reply to #98232.
--- In logic-users@y..., "technodork_2000" <technodork_2000@y...> wrote: > I am on day one of my Logic 5 journey, and the only real issue I > am having now is getting my old Logic 4.8.1 EXS24 library to > load up. when I drag my EXS Samples and Sampler Instruments folders > into the Logic 5.0 folder from Logic 4.8.1, EXS will not load any of > my patches (I have around 20gb of samples). Hi, I had no problems, but maybe someone of the EXS usergroup can help: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/ Cheers-STEVEN
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From: "fstory2000" <fstory@...>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 at 11:45:51 AM
Subject: Re: LAMP: Logic 5 - EXS24 not loading properly? Other notes of interest!!!!.
Message #98246
This is a reply to #98232.
--- In logic-users@y..., "technodork_2000" <technodork_2000@y...> wrote: > Initially, the demo EXS24 has an abbreviated version of the EXS > factory instruments to choose from, and these load up fine, but > when I drag my EXS Samples and Sampler Instruments folders > into the Logic 5.0 folder from Logic 4.8.1, EXS will not load any of > my patches (I have around 20gb of samples). The patch names > show up, but no loading of samples ever takes place. If I strip it > back to say just one or two EXS insturments in the folder all > together, they load up fine, although slow. > My understanding is that each EXS program references its samples from a specific directory path. For example, when you convert an Akai program, the samples are copied to a specific folder (usually "Akai Samples") within a folder - within a folder. EXS programs look for that specific path. If it can't find the samples there, it starts looking for them elsewhere on your hard drive - which is a very cool feature...EXCEPT for the fact that it's excrutiatingly SLOW...sometimes taking several minutes to locate the samples, and not letting you do anything else in Logic while it searches. We recently bought new computers, and copied our sampler instruments and samples to the new PCs over the network. Sure enough, Logic took forever every time we tried to load an EXS program. We ended up renaming the folders on the new computers to match the names on the old ones. If all your stuff is on the same computer, of course this won't work. I've read that copying aliases into the new folders solves this problem, though I haven't tried it. Good luck. Fred Story Concentrix Music and Sound Design www.concentrixmusic.com
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From: "nearlygod" <unkasg@...>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 at 11:48:39 AM
Subject: LAWP 4.7 and EXS24: EXS does not access my hole sample library
Message #98247
This is a reply to #98241.
I got about 20 sample cd`s in my sampler instruments folder, organized in folders, subfolders. Since a few days, some of my cd`s are not shown up by the exs. Anybody know this problem ?
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From: "ronniewibbley" <guy@...>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 at 12:32:08 PM
Subject: [LAW] EXS24 - changing instrument problem
Message #98249
This is a reply to #98241.
Hello! Apologies if this has been discussed here recently (have been snowed under with work this last 2 weeks) but I have found that under Logic 5, I cannot change instruments on my EXS24 after the initial loading. If under LAWP 4.8 I wanted to try another instrument, I would simply click in the instrument name bar in the centre of the EXS24 which would bring up the menu of instruments I have on my HD. Now I can only do this the first time after I load a song. After this, clicking on the instrument bar has no effect, and I have to take the EXS24 out of the insert point in the audio instrument mixer, and reload a new, empty EXS in its place. Has anyone else had this experience with Logic 5? Regards Guy
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From: "technodork_2000" <technodork_2000@...>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 at 12:54:30 PM
Subject: Re: LAMP: Logic 5 - EXS24 not loading properly? Other notes of interest!!!!.
Message #98253
This is a reply to #98246.
Typically after you moved your EXS samples and instruments to new machine under Version 4, after the initial load of Logic, and initial scan of EXS instruments, it went fast from there on out. My problem with Logic 5 is that they simply aren't loading, no processing, no searching.....? But if I drop back down to just one or two instruments in the folder, it works fine? I may just do a reinstall and see if there is any improvement, as EXS is taking an extrordinarily long time to load as an instrument, all the other virtual instruments pop right up, just the wasy EXS did in 4.8.1. I'll continue to play with it and see if I can narrow it down anymore, sorry if this was considered OT, I assumed most people using Logic and Logic 5.0 were taking advantage of EXS24. Thanks for your help!
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From: "technodork_2000" <technodork_2000@...>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 at 7:12:52 PM
Subject: Re: LAMP: Logic 5 - loading from alias or desktop file?
Message #98268
This is a reply to #98253.
I have EXS24 running now, seems it doesn't like to load if V5 is booted directly from the Logic V5 application , if I save Logic as a file called "Template" to my desktop, it will load my full library of instruments fine. Now it seems that Logic 5 is having troulbe booting from an alias created on my desktop or a file for that matter. I get errors saying that it can't find the application that created it, and or can't find EXS.res.shel Any ideas? Thanks
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From: "threbbit" <scores@...>
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 at 5:20:18 AM
Subject: Re: LAMP: Logic 5 - EXS24 not loading properly? Other notes of interest!!!!.
Message #98296
This is a reply to #98232.
Sorry to state the obvious, but you did transfer your "Sample Instruments" folder from your v.4 folder to the new Logic 5 folder didn't you? RJ --- In logic-users@y..., "technodork_2000" <technodork_2000@y...> wrote: > I am on day one of my Logic 5 journey, and the only real issue I > am having now is getting my old Logic 4.8.1 EXS24 library to > load up.
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From: Raymund Beyer <lug@...>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 at 2:51:12 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] LAMP: Logic 5 - loading from alias or desktop file?
Message #98337
This is a reply to #98268.
technodork_2000 wrote: >I have EXS24 running now, seems it doesn't like to load if V5 is >booted directly from the Logic V5 application , if I save Logic as a >file called "Template" to my desktop, it will load my full library of >instruments fine. > >Now it seems that Logic 5 is having troulbe booting from an >alias created on my desktop or a file for that matter. >I get errors saying that it can't find the application that created it, >and or can't find EXS.res.shel I didn't 100% ly understand what you did, but the Logic application has to reside in it's "own" folder. The missing Resfile might be a result of starting Logic from a wrong location (the Resfiles are searched in the folder where the Logic app resides). So make sure that Logic is installed correctly, and make a new alias from the Logic app and put it to your desktop. Then you might drag your Template song on that Alias. Perhaps you have several copies of Logic on your hard disk? Like this you never know _which_ Logic app starts in case you double click a song (the Finder will decide which one he will start). And btw: you can save your Template as "Autoload" inside the Logic folder, so Logic will open this song automatically when you launch (but you sure know that ;-) Best Ray ----------------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer mail@... http://www.brainstorm-music.com -----------------------------------------------------------------
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From: "technodork_2000" <technodork_2000@...>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 at 2:58:49 PM
Subject: Re: LAMP: Logic 5 - EXS24 not loading properly? Other notes of interest!!!!.
Message #98418
This is a reply to #98296.
Yes, all running well know, just lots of trial and error, Logic didn't want to recognize the instruments until I setup my autoload. Before that, just booting up from the Logic 5 application, no EXS library.
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From: "nearlygod" <unkasg@...>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 at 9:52:20 AM
Subject: [LUG] LAWP 4.7 and EXS24: EXS does not access my hole sample library
Message #98583
This is a reply to #98247.
I got about 20 sample cd`s in my sampler instruments folder, organized in folders, subfolders. Since a few days, some of my cd`s are not shown up by the exs. Anybody know this problem ?
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