Just thought I'd be a bit more positive! FWIW I think the new automation is excellent. I work alot with softsyths - now you just pick a parameter - by name - draw in a nice curve and bingo - it's done. It's so easy to tweak to things that you just wouldn't have thought about automating before (because you had to dig out the controller number, make sure you didn't have a effect in the necxt slot etc...) - this leads to more experimentation which can only be a good thing. You also get control of the parameter you're automating by moving the slider directly in the arrange window - very handy. And of course if you don't like it, the old automation is still there. Also bear in mind that mutiple undos & multiple VST outs are coming very soon. This all adds up to a very worthwhile and good value updgrade. Especiialy when you consider the free upgrades from 4.0 - > 4.8.1 over the last few years. If the same service is going to take us from 5.0 -> 5.8 it's going to be a great two years! G.

> Just thought I'd be a bit more positive! > > FWIW I think the new automation is excellent. I work alot with > softsyths - now you just pick a parameter - by name - draw in a nice > curve and bingo - it's done. It's so easy to tweak to things that > you just wouldn't have thought about automating before (because you > had to dig out the controller number, make sure you didn't have a > effect in the necxt slot etc...) - this leads to more > experimentation which can only be a good thing. You also get > control of the parameter you're automating by moving the slider > directly in the arrange window - very handy. Yes, but you could have gotten all this without leaving the "object based" nature that logic had in the first place. And that¹s where the new automation breaks (and sucks as an other thread reads). Regards, Uli. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

uswitalski@... wrote: >Yes, but you could have gotten all this without leaving the "object based" >nature that logic had in the first place. It's still there. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer mail@... http://www.brainstorm-music.com -----------------------------------------------------------------