logic-users@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Original Message: > Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 19:17:49 -0000 > From: "njmowatt" <njmowatt@...> > Subject: OT: How to dig out a buried snare from a mix?? > > This is a mix question for the group: > > I have a completed stereo mix that has a snare drum that's buried in > the mix and I would like to bring out more to the front without > affecting much else. I have tried three different ways of doing this, > each with moderate results. Before I concentrate on any particular > method I'd love to get an opinion from the group on how to proceed. > > 1. Using the PSP MixTreble plugin, turn off everything except the > output and harmonics sections. In the harmonics section set the > frequency slider in the range of 6-7K; the first out knob to about > 40%; drive to about 30%; and the Q to about .8. Adjusting > the 'adjust' slider and the mix slider to suite the music seems to > achieve pretty good results. > > 2. Using FatEQ, I can set up a sort of notch filter for the frequency > of the snare (about 7k) with a fairly high Q factor and an increase > of 3 - 6 DB. This seems about the simplest method. > > 3. Using a multiband compressor like Waves C4, I can make a band that > concentrates in this frequency range with a positive range, high Q > and a low enough threshold to react to the snare. > > Why would I use one method over the over? > Are there other ways to do it? Nope, without some "special" plugins, that's about the easiest way, IMO. However, 7k is pretty high for a snare drum. I'd play around more and get the body of the snare drum isolated first, using a "hump" just under the human voice range probably at about 800cps-1k+-, then add the snares zing @ more likely 2k-3.5k. Make separate tracks for each isolation effort until you have 'em cleaned up as much as possible, then mix 'em to taste... Regards, ...z Law of Probability Dispersal: Whatever it is that hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. -- L.G. "Zeek" Duff WHAT!Productions! Blue Wall Studio 303.485.9438 ICQ#35974686 Longmont, Colorado CD -OMNIVORE- now available; listen for free & buy: http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/305/zeek_duff.html

Depending on how complex the snare part is...ie..how human it is...have you considered using the audio to trigger a vst instrument snare with a multi velocity sample tucked into the track on separate outputs. Your 2's & 4's will be easy, as well as the basic fill hits. It might involve a little deft programming on a few more complex fills but it would be do-able. (Trying to be more constructive than my last uninformed post!) Clive Young

How about adding the stereo mix back onto the multitrack, muting all the audio except the snare, edge the snare up a bit and do a bounce? This is probably too simple and naïve. Oh well! John On 2/2/02 3:19 am, "Clive Young" <witsend@...> wrote: > Depending on how complex the snare part is...ie..how human it is...have you > considered using the audio to trigger a vst instrument snare with a multi > velocity sample tucked into the track on separate outputs. Your 2's & 4's > will be easy, as well as the basic fill hits. It might involve a little deft > programming on a few more complex fills but it would be do-able. > (Trying to be more constructive than my last uninformed post!) > Clive Young > > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >>>>>> Please include [LAM]/[LAW]/[GEN]/[OT] in your subject line <<<<< > > FAQ: http://www.logicuser.net > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > -- John Russell johnrussell@... tel: 01483 821314 Mob: 07778 156433