[snip] >> This poem was written by a Marine stationed in Okinawa Japan. >> Christmas will be coming soon and some credit is >> due to our U.S. service men and women for our being >> able to celebrate these festivities. Let's try in >> this small way to pay a tiny bit of what we owe. >> Make people stop and think of our heroes, living and >> dead, who sacrificed themselves for us. Please, do >> your small part to plant this small seed. You may feel like this and I won't challenge your right to do so. I personally felt disgusted when reading those lines. IMO they are just a new version of "We fight this war with god on our side. It is a just war." The assumption that god actually might approve of any war does severely tax my gullability. To my knowledge only the Old Testament does actually support violence. If you read on you eventually discover the New Testament which clearly abhors of violence. My opinion. Best, Michael -- Vote against SPAM - see http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/ Michael Gerdau email: mgd@... Difference between a virus & Windows? Viruses never fail. PGP-keys available on request or at public keyserver

--- In logic-users@y..., "Michael Gerdau" <mgd@t...> wrote: --- In logic-users@y..., "Michael Gerdau" <mgd@t...> wrote: > You may feel like this and I won't challenge your right to do so. But I think we can certainly challenge their right to post such self-serving militaristic crap to an international list... > To my knowledge only the Old Testament does actually > support violence. If you read on you eventually discover the > New Testament which clearly abhors of violence. Amen to that, from a humanist non-believer... John Pitcairn

Thoughts from the mind of Michael Gerdau, 11/2/01: >[snip] >The assumption that god actually might approve of any war does >severely tax my gullability. > >To my knowledge only the Old Testament does actually support violence. >If you read on you eventually discover the New Testament which clearly >abhors of violence. Thank God, Allah, Krishna, Zeus, or whomever you prefer for people with good sense. And, if I may add a little bit, it is the _New_ Testament on which Christianity is based -- which in turn, we Westerners like to claim, is the basis for much of our moral thinking. cheers, HJ -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra email: mailto:h@... www: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

Horrible. If this is what soldiers think of themselves, good night. Sascha

Thanks for saying it Michael on 2/11/01 7:01 AM, Michael Gerdau at mgd@... wrote: >>> This poem was written by a Marine stationed in Okinawa Japan. >>> Christmas will be coming soon and some credit is >>> due to our U.S. service men and women for our being >>> able to celebrate these festivities. Let's try in >>> this small way to pay a tiny bit of what we owe. >>> Make people stop and think of our heroes, living and >>> dead, who sacrificed themselves for us. Please, do >>> your small part to plant this small seed. > > You may feel like this and I won't challenge your right to do so. > > I personally felt disgusted when reading those lines. -- Web Design, Music Composition and Production, Music Technology Training and MORE! www.chadales.co.uk

> You may feel like this and I won't challenge your right to do so. But I think we can certainly challenge their right to post such self-serving militaristic crap to an international list... > To my knowledge only the Old Testament does actually > support violence. If you read on you eventually discover the > New Testament which clearly abhors of violence. I agree - I don't want anyone thinking that we all support this war, and I object to postings that assume that we are all in agreement with this military action. By the way, isn't this a logic user group???? david T

Hi Victor / Jeff / LUG re the above and the problem of only either of the interfaces being recognised on a G4 867MHz, i tried all the suggestions, a) leaving out the Free Midi Extensions - did not help b) threw out the Geoport extension and used the Stealth 1.03 extension instead and and it was recognised by Free Midi, Midi Express console by Unitor Control and Hallelujah, by LOGIC (LAMP 4.81 too!) this is also for the information of other users who may encounter this problem. best regards and thanks for the help. SYD