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From: soundcafe@...
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 at 4:33:53 PM
Subject: [GEN] Mix groups in LAP?
Message #69895
Is there a possibility to assign a mix group to a channel in audio/track -mixer in Logic audio Platinum? So I could control for example drums, vocal and Background vocal levels seperately, without havong to send them to seperate busses. (which is of course one way of doing this. Not a very convenient though..) If there`s anyone out there to help me, I´d be delighted... :) Yours, Sasu S.
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From: david@...
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 at 5:45:04 PM
Subject: Re: [GEN] Mix groups in LAP?
Message #69899
This is a reply to #69895.
--- In logic-users@y..., soundcafe@y... wrote: > Is there a possibility to assign a mix group to a channel in > audio/track -mixer in Logic audio Platinum? AFAIK Nope...hard to believe huh? If you use one of your 16 busses as a group master, you want have "post" Aux sends. That would leave your verb hanging when you pulled your bus down, for instance. Personally, I think your idea of being able to assign an "audio object" as a group master, is rated right up there with the wish for "Aux Sends" on the busses. Don't know why it's not like that. Actually just making the track outputs assignable to any of the inputs in addition to how it works now, would do it. I work around that this way. Go to the Audio mixer environment, just copy one the audio faders, and drag it off to itself. Now cable from that over to the cable point on the first BGV track, and then jump from there to the next one, and so one. You'll find that the faders starting from the first one controls itself and all afterward, in that cable run. Then just automate the highest fader in the chain, the others will follow. You can even edit eq parameters on the top one, and the others will follow. The only downside, is it will make all the faders levels the same. That's ok sometimes, but not always, so just rebalance the group using the output level on any plugins that you might have inserted on each of those tracks, or insert the "Volume Helper", and change the gain on the individual tracks. That's a workaround for something easy like stack parts, BGVS, but a Drum group, I don't think so. It'll probably get changed in an future Logic update, but won't be documented right away. he he. hope that works for you, df
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From: nitemarre@...
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 at 2:17:12 PM
Subject: Re: [GEN] Mix groups in LAP?
Message #69986
This is a reply to #69899.
> > Is there a possibility to assign a mix group to a channel in > > audio/track -mixer in Logic audio Platinum? > > AFAIK Nope...hard to believe huh? If you use one of your 16 busses > as a group master, you want have "post" Aux sends. That would leave > your verb hanging when you pulled your bus down, for instance. > I work around that this way.... There is an easier way to do this. Just assign the OUTPUT of the tracks that you want to group to a bus.That bus now controls your group. You can insert fx on that bus if you so desire.
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From: david@...
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 at 2:50:47 PM
Subject: Re: [GEN] Mix groups in LAP?
Message #69988
This is a reply to #69986.
--- In logic-users@y..., nitemarre@e... wrote: > There is an easier way to do this. > Just assign the OUTPUT of the tracks that you want to group > to a bus.That bus now controls your group. You can insert fx on > that bus if you so desire. Well yeeeahh, but I may not want that much verb on my Kick drum, and cymbals, but in many cases that would fine, like with BGVs. d :)
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From: "Enemy of Silence" <enemyofsilence@...>
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 at 4:58:31 PM
Subject: Re: [GEN] Mix groups in LAP?
Message #69998
This is a reply to #69988.
Wouldn't this be the purpose of assigning buses to other buses? Say assign your drums to bus1 with whatever effects, guitars to bus2 with... Then assign the ones you want to group to bus 5 for example, with no FX. Now bus 5 controls the whole group. have i oversimplified it? I've only just started with LAWP and this is the first thing that makes sense ;) hope it helps, Sean Garvin Enemy of Silence Productions --- In logic-users@y..., david@f... wrote: > --- In logic-users@y..., nitemarre@e... wrote: > > > There is an easier way to do this. > > Just assign the OUTPUT of the tracks that you want to group > > to a bus.That bus now controls your group. You can insert fx on > > that bus if you so desire. > > Well yeeeahh, but I may not want that much verb on my Kick drum, and > cymbals, but in many cases that would fine, like with BGVs. > > d :)
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From: david@...
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 at 7:07:48 PM
Subject: Re: [GEN] Mix groups in LAP?
Message #70013
This is a reply to #69998.
--- In logic-users@y..., "Enemy of Silence" <enemyofsilence@y...> wrote: > Wouldn't this be the purpose of assigning buses to other buses? That is a workaround that just might be a good one. I'n not sure, if you meant this, but assign your tracks that you want to group together to a bus, also on those tracks have aux sends to your effect, which is returned on a bus, that is assigned to the same bus as the tracks. That way when you pull the bus for that group the effects return will be pulled also. I'm just wondering if the relative balance between the dry and wet are maintained. I'm gonna try that. That's a good one....EOS, regards, df
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From: David Eager <oink@...>
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 at 10:29:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: [GEN] Mix groups in LAP?
Message #70018
This is a reply to #70013.
Hi David, next time you are online at Rocketnetwork , talk to lynnmonk if you see her, she has got this set up already. A tip. make sure you choose higher order bus objects as the master faders , since lower order must send to higher order. Dave Eager david@... wrote: > --- In logic-users@y..., "Enemy of Silence" <enemyofsilence@y...> > wrote: > > Wouldn't this be the purpose of assigning buses to other buses? > > That is a workaround that just might be a good one. I'n not sure, if > you meant this, but assign your tracks that you want to group > together to a bus, also on those tracks have aux sends to your effect, > which is returned on a bus, that is assigned to the same bus as the > tracks. That way when you pull the bus for that group the effects > return will be pulled also. I'm just wondering if the relative balance > between the dry and wet are maintained. I'm gonna try that. > > That's a good one....EOS, > > regards, > df > >
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