Markus says its shit of a bull, but our friend Dave Smith of Emagic seems to hint otherwise : >Emagic remains committed to copy protection both for our own protection >and for our valued endusers. >As technology evolves, so must copy protection methods. Emagic is always >discussing ways of improving our copy protection Bullshit, or prediction.... you make the call. >but no decision regarding >changing our current methods has been determined at this time. someone else : >You are responding to what amounts to a rumour. A unsubstantiated bit of >non-information by a supposed Emagic regional product rep. Its better we speak out now rather than wait for it to become fact. Its better or Emagic to read 10 angry emails now - than have hundreds of thousands pissed off, then have to re-engineer the new dongle after the fact. We are their NORAD early warning system. >Heresay in its most base form. Stop it. Yes, maam. Will I be required to stand in the corner?

> Its better we speak out now rather than wait for it to become fact. Its > better or Emagic to read 10 angry emails now - than have hundreds of > thousands pissed off, then have to re-engineer the new dongle after the > fact. We are their NORAD early warning system. I'm behind you on this one. Probably the only reason that I choose to chime in.... or wait a minute, which corner should we stand in to keep silent? heh heh heh or maybe there are some individuals on the list whom we should send all our submissions to first... maybe some kind of screening process to stop the "Heresay" nirk nirk nirk Just to recap: yes - we heard about an internet-dependent dongle for LA 5.0 yes - we are concerned about this no - we haven't gotten a direct answer to this from Emagic cheers, keith$ ----- Original Message ----- From: <GAmoore@...> To: <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 2:23 PM Subject: Re: RE: [LUG] News on Logic 5.0 > > > > Markus says its shit of a bull, but our friend Dave Smith of Emagic seems > to hint otherwise : > > >Emagic remains committed to copy protection both for our own protection > >and for our valued endusers. > >As technology evolves, so must copy protection methods. Emagic is always > >discussing ways of improving our copy protection > > Bullshit, or prediction.... you make the call. > > > >but no decision regarding > >changing our current methods has been determined at this time. > > someone else : > >You are responding to what amounts to a rumour. A unsubstantiated bit of > >non-information by a supposed Emagic regional product rep. > > Its better we speak out now rather than wait for it to become fact. Its > better or Emagic to read 10 angry emails now - than have hundreds of > thousands pissed off, then have to re-engineer the new dongle after the > fact. We are their NORAD early warning system. > > > >Heresay in its most base form. Stop it. > > Yes, maam. Will I be required to stand in the corner? > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > >>>>> Subject lines must contain: [LAM]/[LAW]/[GEN]/[OT] <<<<< > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >

> yes - we heard about an internet-dependent dongle for LA 5.0 it sounds VERY similar to the new system Microsoft is planning on using with Windows XP. Basically the installer generates a unique 'key' that is based on various serial numbers and things it extracts from your hardware components (CPU serial #, hdd serial # etc ...) it then performs some function that generates a unique challenge that is keyed to your computer. You then send your unique key to the vendor, where they generate a response for your machine. You use this to authorise the software and away you go. Basically the idea is your actual computer is the dongle, using the serial numbers etc of the actual components "theoretically" guarentees that every machine is unique. The whole copy protections system falls down when you look at upgrading a component. Say you replace your CPU, all of a sudden your unique ID changes and you could be locked out, and as computer based audio folk upgrading components is almost a monthly occurance :) Sorry for the lack of technical details, I read about it in an article a month or so ago and don't have it handy. Cheers, Marcus

Marcus Barczak wrote: > it sounds VERY similar to the new system Microsoft is planning on using with > Windows XP. Basically the installer generates a unique 'key' that is based > on various serial numbers and things it extracts from your hardware > components (CPU serial #, hdd serial # etc ...) it then performs some > function that generates a unique challenge that is keyed to your computer. > > You then send your unique key to the vendor, where they generate a response > for your machine. What a convenient way for Microsoft to run a survey of all the components on your machine :) > You use this to authorise the software and away you go. > Basically the idea is your actual computer is the dongle, using the serial > numbers etc of the actual components "theoretically" guarentees that every > machine is unique. Of course one serial number from one piece of hardware would be just as unique.....but then again, Bill wouldn't be able to keep tabs on you as well. Take care Jesse widener

Guys this is way OT, Why don¹t you move there, anyway this serial # system is going to generate more headaches to legit users, one article reviewer said the first thing he did was to head to the net and download a crack for this, Now tell me those Emagic cracks are working in tune for ya...... > Marcus Barczak wrote: >> it sounds VERY similar to the new system Microsoft is planning on using with >> Windows XP. Basically the installer generates a unique 'key' that is based >> on various serial numbers and things it extracts from your hardware >> components (CPU serial #, hdd serial # etc ...) it then performs some >> function that generates a unique challenge that is keyed to your computer. >> >> You then send your unique key to the vendor, where they generate a response >> for your machine. > > What a convenient way for Microsoft to run a survey of all the componentson > your machine :) > >> You use this to authorise the software and away you go. >> Basically the idea is your actual computer is the dongle, using the serial >> numbers etc of the actual components "theoretically" guarentees that every >> machine is unique. > > Of course one serial number from one piece of hardware would be just as > unique.....but then again, Bill wouldn't be able to keep tabs on you as well.