jump to beginning show previous Showing Logic-users Thread 40786 of 105804 show next jump to end

Forum Index | Read LUG: Policy/Rules Messages Threads Digests | Post New Message | Search!

From: GAmoore@...
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 at 1:09:12 PM
Subject: gen - selecting masses in matrix (was illogical) & toggle wish
Message #66713
I thank Barb, F-erenc, and Sasha for thier workaround. I find that doesn't work well for me. Usually I have a part - lets say drums - and its all on one track - and I want to put the toms on another midi track. So if I use the method you suggest (choose some sample notes from a small area, and then select equal) I find I always miss some other notes which are some where later down the line. What I do, is zoom, waaaaaay out, hit the MIDI off button, and select the group in masse. This is usually effective but two problems - one is the hassle of zooming way out then zooming back in on the right spot. Another is that when you zoom so far out its hard to distingish notes and sometimes errors are made. If the shift key would work (as it should) you could do all this without needing to zoom. This brings up a more general equation. What is the best way to take a complicated track and split it into two, three, or four complementary tracks. In the example above, lets say I want to end up wtih a high hat track, bass drum, snare, toms, and ride cymbol tracks. At different times in the song there are different combinations so you can split by high/low voice. What I do now is laborious - make 5 copies of the sequence, and try to delete all but the desired parts in each one (using the above mentioned zooming method). At the end of the day, I'm not exactly sure if there are some duplicate notes (two different tracks playing the same note) or if some note has been deleted from all the tracks. Is there a way to select a bunch of notes and demix by selection? That would be very useful. You could select all the snares, then this keycommand would delete them from that track and put them in their own track. Furthermore this method is made more complicated by the fact that you have to glue all your parts together. For example in a song if you have 3 bars of intro, 8 bars of verse, 4 bars of build, 6 bars of verse, etc, etc, - but to split the parts, then I need to glue all of these together to select the parts. Later, to continue with the arrangement I need to re-cut this long sequence into little parts again - a process made more difficult by the need to have bank/patch change sequences at bar 0. This is why I have "wished" for a way to toggle all sequences on a track as single long sequence, and then back to their cut-up little sections so you can have the best of worlds. >> In the matrix window, if you select a single piano key, it selects all >> the notes at that pitch. Why is it that the SHIFT key will not work? >If you want to do that you can just select a note (not with the piano, just >by clicking on a note) and then shift-select another note, or however many >you want. You can then use the key command or menu to 'select all equal >notes' (something like that!) and you will get your desired result. >I have = assigned for this in my setup.
Viewed 167 times, 2 replies, 3 messages in thread. Reply to this message.
From: Gregory Anderson <ggaslp@...>
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 at 7:48:14 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] gen - selecting masses in matrix (was illogical) & toggle wish
Message #66728
This is a reply to #66713.
> From: GAmoore@... > Is there a way to select a bunch of notes and demix by selection? That > would be very useful. You could select all the snares, then this > keycommand would delete them from that track and put them in their own > track. There is demix by channel, though, isn't there? What I would do is go in the event list, select c3, select equal, and change the channel. Then repeat that, putting all the different notes on different channels, then demix by channel. But you say that selecting equal doesn't work for you? Odd. You could do it in the transform window. As for glueing together and breaking back apart, I can't help you there. I don't know how you are creating these tracks that you later want to split, but in the "ounce of prevention" category, you could set up some transformers in the environment to assign different notes to different channels as you are recording. That would make splitting them up later on much easier. Gregory
Viewed 171 times, 0 replies, 3 messages in thread. Reply to this message.
From: Thomas@...
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 at 10:20:10 PM
Subject: Re: [GEN] selecting masses in matrix (was illogical) & toggle wish
Message #66912
This is a reply to #66713.
Hi Greg, > I thank Barb, F-erenc, and Sasha for thier workaround. No, thank Emagic for supplying you with a work-around when the normal simple functionaltiy is non-functional. :-) > This brings up a more general equation. What is the best way to > take a complicated track and split it into two, three, or four > complementary tracks. Cut the notes, make a new track, de-select previous sequence, Paste at Original Position. This is another one of my basic workflows, which despite claims otherwise are actually completely general and rather fundamental. Quantized positions will be preserved after pasting; but the quantize settings of the new sequences won't correspond to these. You should probably either fix the quantization, or set the settings, so as to avoid later confusion. Tip: assign a key command for Paste at Original Position. --- We can consider this operation as one of an entire *class* of operations where Logic is deficient. This class of operations: - Operates from Matrix, Score or Sample editors - May be specified at these precise levels of detail - Applies those changes (split) at a *higher* Arrangement level - Doesn't require user to see Arrangement > Is there a way to select a bunch of notes and demix by selection? > That would be very useful. You could select all the snares, then > this keycommand would delete them from that track and put them in > their own track. And the other operations are : - Split (scissor) by song position from Matrix, etc - Copy sequence for further editing, mute previous > This is why I have "wished" for a way to toggle all sequences on a > track as single long sequence, and then back to their cut-up little > sections so you can have the best of worlds. I would like a function to identify *identical* sequences. After one has copied them around, changed some bits, split them up, etc... It would be rather useful to identify which were exactly the same. Cheers, Thomas
Viewed 180 times, 0 replies, 3 messages in thread. Reply to this message.

Forum Index | Read LUG: Policy/Rules Messages Threads Digests | Post New Message | Search!

Forum Index | Read LUG: Policy/Rules Messages Threads Digests | Post New Message | Search!


© 1994-2008, All Rights Reserved.