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From: Joe Albano <joea@...>
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 at 5:46:00 PM
Subject: LAMP 4.7: some first impressions
Message #59296
Hi all; some first impressions of 4.7.. Overall, an excellent update, *many* new features, including lots of little enhancements not mentioned in the previews, plus various bugfixes (including some undocumented ones).. - 4.7 fixes this long-standing bug: in HyperDraw, when there were discontinuous events (hanging lines), if you clicked in the blue to draw, these events would be unintentionally interpolated. Now, Logic automatically places anchors at the end of the discontinuous lines to preserve all original data.. excellent! :-) - A bug in the Matrix window, where inserted notes in multi-sequence views were offset from the insertion point, seems to have been fixed.. - A new bug (buglet?): Can't use the Goto Key Command to goto the same bar more than once without changing the destination. Example: - Goto Bar 5: ok; - Play, then stop anywhere (say, bar 10); - Goto Bar 5: Nothing happens (The cursor stays put); - Goto any bar *except 5*: ok, OR Goto any bar *except 5*, *then* Goto Bar 5: ok This seems to replace the previous bug, where the SMPTE display wouldn't update when using Goto to go to bar 1.. This one's worse, but I assume (hope) it's easily fixed.. ;-) - The Arrange-window-audio-regions-display-incorrectly-thru-tempo-changes bug is still there.. :-( VST instruments: the new features are very useful, in addition to looping/patch changes/parameter box functions, you can now set up an instrument that runs thru a bunch of Environment transformers on the way in to a VSTi object.. :-) I encountered some odd behavior when I tried to multi-record two VST instruments (two different VSTi tracks both record-enabled) in both multitrack mode (different controllers on different incoming MIDI channels) and layer mode.. - When Logic was stopped, I could only hear one VSTi (the selected track) as I played on the keyboard, even though both VSTi tracks were record-enabled (the function worked normally with MIDI tracks, and with MIDI tracks plus *one* VSTi track). Also, an Environment instrument cabled to two VST instruments would either only trigger one at a time (top cable?) or neither (when stopped).. - When I hit play or record, I could now hear both, and the MIDI data was recorded & played back as expected (in both modes), *but* while I was recording, the second VST instrument's sound was delayed by about half a second or so; it played back in sync however. If I played/recorded from a single track with a single instrument that was cabled to two VSTi's, both were heard delayed, but once again in playback they were in time.. So I'm wondering, is this a feature that's even intended to be implemented at this time? Should both record-enabled VSTi tracks sound even when Logic is not running, as with MIDI tracks? Could the delays just be a limitation of the ancient, creaking, pre-G3 Mac I happened to be testing on? Can anyone else confirm if this works as would be expected (as multi-record does with regular MIDI and audio tracks) on an appropriately powerful system? (I'll try it on one some time later this week).. Other than that, all the new features I tried looked good so far.. Running with the new MIDI engine I _once_ got a MIDI/Audio sync error, but could not reproduce it (perhaps it had something to do with tempo changes I'd inserted? There was only one audio/one MIDI track playing at the time).. After that it seemed fine, although I didn't test with any large songs yet.. Anyway... Cheers, Joe Albano ROOFTOP PRODUCTIONS NYC, NY
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From: "Stephen Bennett" <s.bennett@...>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 at 2:21:23 AM
Subject: No meters for me in 4.7. Anyone else got this?
Message #59328
This is a reply to #59296.
Hi all I'm only getting the master fader meters working in 4.7. All other channels are blank though the faders work. Is this an OS thing? I'm using OS 8.1 Regards Stephen Bennett. Composer and sound design. (UK) http://chaosstudios.gen-next.com henry fool http://www.collective.co.uk/henryfool The Fire Thieves: http://tft.gen-next.com Author of 'The Fast Guide To Logic' http://www.pc-pubs.demon.co.uk/fgel.htm and 'Making Music with E-Magic Logic Audio http://www.pc-pubs.demon.co.uk/mmela.htm'
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From: Markus Fritze <mfritze@...>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 at 10:57:31 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] No meters for me in 4.7. Anyone else got this?
Message #59381
This is a reply to #59328.
on 28.03.2001 0:21 Uhr, Stephen Bennett at s.bennett@... wrote: > I'm only getting the master fader meters working in 4.7. All other channels > are blank though the faders work. Is this an OS thing? I'm using OS 8.1 I don't know, but 8.5 is the latest official supported version of Mac OS. We also recommend to update to at least to 8.6. The best version for Logic is a new version of Mac OS 9 (e.g. 9.0.4, we haven't got excessive tests with 9.1, but didn't get real bad responses :-) MMM -- Markus Fritze Emagic Soft- und Hardware GmbH <http://www.emagic.de>; Chief Developer New Technology Integration, Mac OS
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From: "Joris" <Jounet@...>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 at 4:05:10 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] No meters for me in 4.7. Anyone else got this?
Message #59384
This is a reply to #59328.
Hi, Second time for this, but now you lucky guys have already LAM 4.7 ... I'm waiting for LAWP. For all users who meet problems on there setup (adding a new card or midi interface or upgrading). Take your time on testing audio, MIDI, and combinations, before buying. ********************************************* If you might found some problems at least try these : * remove the Logic32.prf file * remove all the win.ini settings for LA * start LAWP without any autoload song * set the audio hardware settings like needed * save this as autoload song * restart LA and test if all works well ! * keep the audio-environment of this song ! * copy your environments and other settings. * uncheck the MIDI-data-reduction if big environments are in use : they can have functions which can be distorted otherwhise ! ********************************************* Joris Subject: [LUG] No meters for me in 4.7. Anyone else got this? > Hi all > > I'm only getting the master fader meters working in 4.7. All other channels > are blank though the faders work. Is this an OS thing? I'm using OS 8.1 > > Regards > > Stephen Bennett. Composer and sound design. (UK)
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