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From: Gary Morrison <MR88CET@...>
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 at 7:38:33 AM
Subject: Multiple Plug-In Formats
Message #34332
Thanks, Fernando, for the detailed answer to my earlier question about TDM. Yet another question: Am I correct in guessing that there's nothing stopping Logic from supporting two or more plug-in formats at the same time? That is, you don't have to do something to fire up, say VST support and (heaven forbid) reboot or something like that to use Steinberg plug-ins, and then reinitialize everything to use TDM plug-ins, right? It's just shared, runtime libraries (DLLs in the general sense of the term) either way, true?
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From: "Fernando Vicente" <fvicente@...>
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 at 11:42:10 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Multiple Plug-In Formats
Message #34367
This is a reply to #34332.
Hi Gary, > > Yet another question: Am I correct in guessing that there's nothing stopping > Logic from supporting two or more plug-in formats at the same time? That is, > you don't have to do something to fire up, say VST support and (heaven forbid) > reboot or something like that to use Steinberg plug-ins, and then reinitialize > everything to use TDM plug-ins, right? It's just shared, runtime libraries > (DLLs in the general sense of the term) either way, true? > Well, sort of. TDM is a different beast. I don't use it (I'd love to buy a PT system one day though :-)) but I've done lots of research on it and other high-end systems. If you want to use TDM plugins, you need to be using DAE for the PT hardware. When the PT hardware is under DAE's control, Logic cannot use VST plugins with the PT hardware. However, you can use other hardware at the same time. So, ifyou need to run VST as TDM plugins at the same time, you need another soundcard like an AW8 or Studi/o or WHY. So, as you can guess, you cannot use VST and TDM on the same track (don't know about the same audiofile) since you can have only piece of audio hardware assigned to that track. So, in answer to your question, if you have only TDM PT hardware, you do have to re-init the drivers (ie DAE or Direct I/O). You may not have to reboot Logic to do this though I think you probably do. If you have both PT hardware and some other soundcard, then you can use whichever plugin format you would like. Obviously, if you need/want to run a VST plugin *and* a TDM plugin on the same track, you'll have to bounce first using one plugin. BTW, since you mention .dlls, Logic Audio does cannot use PT hardware on the PC. At the moment PT hardware only has drivers for NT and Logic does not currently run under NT or Win2000. Even when it does, it is not a given that Logic will be able to use the PT hardware under NT. I'm sure that it will probably work in Direct I/O mode but not necessarily in DAE mode. If you want to use Logic as your front-end with PT hardware, the only choice right now is to buy a Mac. You could, of course, buy a second pc, run PT on NT and sync the 2 apps up. IMHO, you'd be better off with the Mac though as it is nice to have one file only for a session. HTH, Fernando
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