Hi Thomas, Just to clear things up, I did not request this feature, nor do I use the ES-1 or any software synths within Logic. My post to this thread suggested three possible solutions to the thread -intelligent harmonization for MIDI and audio. These solutions vary in complexity and ease of use, as well as result. I agree that Harmonization in the MIDI domain would be useful for Logic, although many MIDI tools exist, notably the transform window and the score window which can be used to either write your own harmonizer or just write the harmony in. As for using pitch bend information as well, to create true or mathematically more correct harmonics, I would say that a function like this in Logic would be great.... Except for those of us who do not think of harmony/pitch in the same way that the Emagic engineers or others in the majority do. I would prefer that Emagic create a MIDI plug-in standard for the environment/track mixer that would allow them to write a harmonizer plug-in, and users to write their own. Compatibility with MAX patches would be great. Those of us that think 12 notes per octave is rather small could be very very happy.... peace, haven >Harmonization in the MIDI domain would be a useful addition to Logic. This >could be applied to the ES-1 as per your original request, or for MIDI >string samples which is the most common desire. > >In the MIDI domain, it is a simple problem if the right tools are available. >In this case, they're not available in Logic's Environment, but *are* in the >C/ C++ language with which Logic is written. > >Here are the algorithms involved : >- Convert incoming notes & pitch bend to frequencies >- Find & adjust to close harmonic relationships 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, 1/3, etc >- Convert new frequencies to outgoing pitch bend > >Those are three *simple* mathematical steps. > >> what you are speaking of is most likely possible with current >> hardware/software. > >Automatic tuning of a sampled string section, is not possible with any of >the products you listed. This is only really possible in the MIDI domain. > >> It is very unlikely that Logic will do this in the foreseeable future. > >Logic could do harmonization in the MIDI domain. I'm trying to set out what >is reasonably possible, and how we can get there... > >You asked for this feature (specifically in the MIDI domain), it can be put >into Logic, I *thought* you wanted it??? > >> It is a fairly advanced process, and several other products are >> already available that do intelligent harmonization. > >I looked at EvenTide. They can pitch-detect monophonic lines, pretty sure >they can't pitch-detect chords from audio. Maybe you can send your chords >into it by MIDI, and it will harmonize a monophonic line (not polyphonic) to >them. > >So you could buy an EvenTide, and plug the output of your ES-1 into it... > >Alternatively we could have this simple processing in the Environment, which >tunes the ES-1 correctly from the start. > > >Regards, >Thomas > > > >Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com >