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From: oscwilde@...
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 at 9:29:20 AM
Subject: OT : Re: "OS problems thing is a myth"?
Message #24710
>Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 23:00:27 -0400 > From: Steve Mullany <smullany@...> > >In response to "Neil" <neil@...>, who says: >"Sorry, but this "OS problems" thing is a myth. Nowadays I don't believe >there is a single technical reason for buying a Mac rather than a PC..." <snip> Hi Steve, While I agree with some of what you have to say....this is a post which borders on "platform wars"...and the last time I checked, this was a banning offence which I'm sure Joeri will advise you of, should he feel the need. Outside of being a done to death topic (MacOS vs. Win), this is the Logic Users Group....where we discuss Logic in it's various flavours..... I appreciate that while related technologies are discussed here, I don't recall ever seeing a Netscape, Sound Recorder, Photoshop or a Word or Director query here, for that matter ;-)..."(The Mac, by contrast, has networking, audio, graphics (and much else) as part of the OS original design)" The original question posed which elicited Neil's response was related to Logic Audio's use, not generic troubleshooting or use on either OS. It certainly had nothing to do with Windows or MacOS communication/networking services. <snip> Although >Mac customers comprise about 20% of our user base, they comprise less than >4% of the customers who actually call in for help. I agree that the MacOS is more "obvious" to a new user and when additional files/extensions etc. need to be added, the MacOS advises you where to put it to add the functionality. This is smart and elegant and should be part of Windows...and could conceivably be one of the primary reasons why only 4% of your Mac clientele call in. Driver/hardware installation is the issue that affects many PC users who subscribe to the LUG and similar lists for other musical apps. Interestingly, in recent times, a great many USB-based Macs have caused grief for many of the LAM subscribers to the LUG and while the PC owners' technical queries would outnumber the Mac user's queries, this is a byproduct of the greater number of LA PC users, in general. Add to this, the lack of documentation available to crack users (PC only unless there's a Mac crack I don't know about) and the balance evens up somewhat. >There is no counting for customer stupidity (which is endemic amongst all >users and accounts for a great many of our calls) but if you wanted to >design a "fool proof" general purpose computer, a PC running Windows 9X >would be a poor choice. The bottom line is that a well configured Mac or PC will do a good job of running Logic Audio. Conversely, a poorly configured Mac or PC will run badly. This list isn't about "general purpose" computing...it's about specific use with Logic Audio unless I'm sadly mistaken ;-) Once again, while much of what you say has some merit, ultimately your being "tired of reading, on these pages and elsewhere, that "Macs and PC's are about the same" in terms of the typical user experience" is unfortunate... Believe me when I say that I truly sympathise with you in your role in tech support. It can certainly be trying. ...but ultimately "general purpose" computing (and your post) has little to do with running Logic Audio specifically ;-) For the record, I run both LAW and LAM on a couple of NETWORKED computers and have no trouble with either version (or my "general purpose" computing ;-))....and this is with the added bonus of beta software on both machines. Truly the best of both worlds ;-) Dave Bellingham Consultant, Musician, Webguy Author of the Wizoo guides to LAW/LAM Check out the Logic Audio FAQ at: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~oscwilde Home of the Emagic Logic Webring
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From: thedroid@...
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 at 10:56:31 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] OT : Re: "OS problems thing is a myth"?
Message #24717
This is a reply to #24710.
(much platform war text deleted) >For the record, I run both LAW and LAM on a couple of NETWORKED computers >and have no trouble with either version (or my "general purpose" computing >;-))....and this is with the added bonus of beta software on both machines. >Truly the best of both worlds ;-) >Dave Bellingham Now THAT is useful information, of the sort I need to help me make my decision about a next studio machine. Has anyone else anything useful to say aboutthe stability or reliability of LA (not other programs, just LA) under the two platforms? I'm particularly intersted in hearing from people who've used both platforms. I'm also interested in hearing about well known problem hardware configuration on either platform. Andy Voelkel 310 399 2289 thedroid@...
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From: "Niels Corfield" <nielsc@...>
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 at 8:14:21 AM
Subject: RE: [LUG] OT : Re: "OS problems thing is a myth"?
Message #24813
This is a reply to #24717.
I have used both. I build and configure PCs. And frankly I have had a little more difficulties with Logic on the G4. For me Logic has to be the first app to go on the system, and if I want any VST plugs to work they have to go in before Logic. However I am much newer to MacOS. I think that although Logic is a great app, it is very "picky", if you know what I mean. But once it's in it's cool but perhaps consider whether or not you NEED all those cracked VST plug that can be SO tempting. Best of all Mac G4 fucking fast. Give us a shout. Niels -----Original Message----- From: thedroid@... [mailto:thedroid@...] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 4:57 AM To: logic-users@egroups.com Subject: Re: [LUG] OT : Re: "OS problems thing is a myth"? (much platform war text deleted) >For the record, I run both LAW and LAM on a couple of NETWORKED computers >and have no trouble with either version (or my "general purpose" computing >;-))....and this is with the added bonus of beta software on both machines. >Truly the best of both worlds ;-) >Dave Bellingham Now THAT is useful information, of the sort I need to help me make my decision about a next studio machine. Has anyone else anything useful to say about the stability or reliability of LA (not other programs, just LA) under the two platforms? I'm particularly intersted in hearing from people who've used both platforms. I'm also interested in hearing about well known problem hardware configuration on either platform. Andy Voelkel 310 399 2289 thedroid@... Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com
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From: Clive Young <witsend@...>
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 at 9:16:54 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] OT : Re: "OS problems thing is a myth"?
Message #24825
This is a reply to #24717.
I have used both platforms with great success, with 2 well tuned systems. I just personally think the Mac is quicker. More grunt per buck! They both work though! Clive Young
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