I bring my original music files into WAVEBURNER, and even rename audio file under both REGION and TRACK tabs, have checked all the appropriate "print text" boxes, but still the files show up as "Audio File 1", "Audio File 2", etc., when I burn the CD. I called AppleCare about this and they were useless -- said Waveburner was essentially out of their domain. Help!

On Oct 5, 2007, at 9:52 AM, D L Hamilton wrote: > Message posted by D L Hamilton <dlham@charter.net>: > > I bring my original music files into WAVEBURNER, and even rename > audio file > under both REGION and TRACK tabs, have checked all the > appropriate "print text" boxes, but still the files show up as > "Audio File > 1", "Audio File 2", etc., when I burn the CD. > I called AppleCare about this and they were useless -- said > Waveburner was > essentially out of their domain. > Help! That's not a problem with Waveburner technically. Briefly, Waveburner is making a "Redbook Standard CD Pre Master", which can be used when creating the "Master" or what is sometimes calle the "Glass Master" in CD Manufacturing. If your CD Burner supports burning CD Text, then after burning the CD put it into a CD player or DVD player that reads CD Text, and you will see the name of the Album, Track names etc. But this really depends on the level of CD text your players support. Computers do not read CD Text. Instead they rely on the CDDB to get track listings etc. Once your Disc has been manufactured, it is entered into the CDDB, so that anyone putting it into their computer can get the listings. is this clear? bd

The problem is that since these particular CDs are compilations of masters of score cues and songs I've written -- the will not be entered into the CDDB, in fact, they'll just be archived by my agent, then he will pull particular cues as examples of my work for his client. So I need to be able to produce a CD right here that has all the track names readable in another person's computer.....is THIS possible?

And by the way, I'm using the superdrive CD burner in my MacPro to burn the CDs.....

On Oct 5, 2007, at 10:40 AM, D L Hamilton wrote: > So I need to be able to produce a CD right here that has all the > track names readable > in another person's computer.....is THIS possible? Not with audio CDs as Bob said. How about making CD-R instead (PC formated so he can read those on both platforms)? Best, Andy

Andy, the CDs I'm using are CD-Rs. Two questions in this regard: 1) What is the process of making a CD-R in the way you've mentioned? 2) I really need to burn from my Waveburner files, in that since the cues have come from different scores, different mixers, etc., the WaveBurner files have a lot of EQ and Limiting and that kind of tweaking which I've added....so will what you're suggesting work if I burn from Waveburner? If so, how would a burn like this differ from just the normal one? Thanks in advance, by the way -- this is a brain twister for me.

On Oct 5, 2007, at 11:25 AM, D L Hamilton wrote: > Message posted by D L Hamilton <dlham@charter.net>: > > Andy, the CDs I'm using are CD-Rs. > Two questions in this regard: > 1) What is the process of making a CD-R in the way you've mentioned? > 2) I really need to burn from my Waveburner files, in that since > the cues have come from different scores, different mixers, > etc., the WaveBurner files have a lot of EQ and Limiting and that > kind of tweaking which I've added....so will what you're suggesting > work if I burn from Waveburner? If so, how would a burn like this > differ from just the normal one? > > Thanks in advance, by the way -- this is a brain twister for me. > Well Waveburner burns cd-text just fine and proper, everytime I make a disc with it shows up in my car stereo even. Whoever it is you are giving the cd too, just needs a program that reads the CD-Text. As far as I know Ive never seen one that used it. Maybe Winamp can but I dont think iTunes can even read it, although it can add it when you burn a disc from a playlist. Sounds to me like the only way to make sure he can see the titles is to submit it to the CDDB when youre done with it so he can pull those from whatever cd player hes using.. I think what Andy was referring to was just making it into a data cd instead of an actual audio cd. That way he will have all the track names right there in the file names and wont have to worry about an audio disc with a bunch of unnamed tracks. But if youve done all your mastering in Waveburner, Im not sure if it will even let you say export/bounce a track into an audio file. Never tried that one myself I just use it for cd's.. --- Chris www.monotrematamusic.com www.descentrecords.com

D L Hamilton wrote: > Message posted by D L Hamilton <dlham@charter.net>: > > Andy, the CDs I'm using are CD-Rs. > Two questions in this regard: > 1) What is the process of making a CD-R in the way you've mentioned? > 2) I really need to burn from my Waveburner files, in that since the cues have come from different scores, different mixers, > etc., the WaveBurner files have a lot of EQ and Limiting and that kind of tweaking which I've added....so will what you're suggesting > work if I burn from Waveburner? If so, how would a burn like this differ from just the normal one? > > Thanks in advance, by the way -- this is a brain twister for me. The only way that I can think of (and I would love to hear a better way) is to burn the audio cd with Waveburner, then extract the tracks from the cd onto your computer as AIFF or WAV files, name the files appropriately in the finder and finally burn a *data* (not audio) cd of the audio files to use for the purposes that you stated. Annoying. I haven't checked, but maybe you can bounce individual tracks to AIFF or WAV in waveburner which would make the process a lot easier. - Sam

You can submit the track names to CDDB yourself using iTunes. You will have to enter them again in iTunes, which is a PITA, but once you submit them, they should be available to your client, in iTunes, or any other app that uses CDDB. -C -- Chris Muir | "There are many futures and only one status quo. cbm@well.com | This is why conservatives mostly agree, http://www.xfade.com | and radicals always argue." - Brian Eno

On Oct 5, 2007, at 10:40 AM, D L Hamilton wrote: > Message posted by D L Hamilton <dlham@charter.net>: > > The problem is that since these particular CDs are compilations of > masters of score > cues and songs I've written -- the will not be entered into the > CDDB, in fact, they'll > just be archived by my agent, then he will pull particular cues as > examples of my > work for his client. > So I need to be able to produce a CD right here that has all the > track names readable > in another person's computer.....is THIS possible? What you want to do exactly can't be done per se... and sending the info to the CDDB is really hit and miss, since there will probably be dozens of other hits on the burnable CD... Here is a workaround... What I have started to do with clients is to send them the tracks in apple lossless format. they can pull the tracks directly into iTunes, and burn their own discs if they want. You can make the Audio CD or not, doesn't Matter, but if you are applying mastering and level adjustments and so forth, then you'll have to burn the disc. I do, and use it to reimport the audio into iTiunes. Then I also have an archive CD and a reference check. In Itunes, set the importing preferences to apple lossless. Before importing the CD, you can and should enter in the song titles, additional info Album title etc so that it everything is tagged the way you want. Next import the disc. After it's imported t you have 2 options. One, you can go to the folder in the iTunes library and burn it to a CD Rom, which the client can import into their itunes, complete with all the names, order etc. Or two, you can burn an mp3 cd from itunes. the mp3 CD will probably play in most modern CD Players, and probably any DVD player. Plus, if they put it on their computer, the mp3's will all be tagged with the correct names, listing etc. To do this, go into the burning prefs in iTunes, and change it from audio to mp3. Audio Files, and Standard CD's cannot contain the tags, but MP3, and apple lossless will. Apple lossless is what I've been using, which comes in about half the size of a normal CD. If clients or potential clients really need an audio CD or just to be safe, then send them both The Audio CD and an MP3 CD and clearly label each. Hope this helps bd

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "D L Hamilton" <forums@...> wrote: > > Message posted by D L Hamilton <dlham@...>: > > I bring my original music files into WAVEBURNER, and even rename audio file > under both REGION and TRACK tabs, have checked all the > appropriate "print text" boxes, but still the files show up as "Audio File > 1", "Audio File 2", etc., when I burn the CD. > I called AppleCare about this and they were useless -- said Waveburner was > essentially out of their domain. > Help! > DL- As Bob DeMaa said, the track information is really there; the Apple OS chooses to use the CDDB database & ignores the information on the cd. Check out a post from a couple of years ago on this: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-users/message/196496 After you've burned the disc with waveburner, you can use Toast to read the disc - it will display the track names as you intended. Steve Collins

From: "Chris Coccia" <mothra@descentrecords.com> > I think what Andy was referring to was just making it into a data cd > instead of an actual audio cd. That way he will have all the track > names right there in the file names and wont have to worry about an > audio disc with a bunch of unnamed tracks. But if youve done all your > mastering in Waveburner, Im not sure if it will even let you say > export/bounce a track into an audio file. Never tried that one myself > I just use it for cd's.. Thanks Chris and sorry for the confusion -- of course I meant data CD. I for one would rather master them in Logic then export to whatever format is necessary and burn the files to a data CD, but in your situation Bob's solution seems much more elegant. Best, Andy

There is a nice tool you can use with iTunes. It´s a script called CD Text to CD Info. I think I have it from the Doug´s Applescripts for iTunes. If you open a burned CD with iTunes you can use it an it will fill your ID3 tags. Then you can transmit it to CDDB. Gruß Uwe

On 08/10/2007, Uwe Rodi <ur@ro-di.de> wrote: > > > There is a nice tool you can use with iTunes. It´s a script called CD > Text to CD Info. I think I have it from the Doug´s Applescripts for > iTunes. If you open a burned CD with iTunes you can use it an it will > fill your ID3 tags. Then you can transmit it to CDDB. > Gruß Uwe It's indispensible for me -- with best wishes, John http://abram.ca