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From: "Paul" <resomania@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 at 6:51:18 PM
Subject: [LUG] will logic 8 install affect logic 7 ?
Message #234162
I want to try out Logic 8 on my current, but in case I run into any problems, I want to be able to run Logic 7 still. Does Logic 8 overwrite any preferences etc used by Logic 7, or does it have its own set of prefs, etc. Thanks Paul
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From: Chris Coccia <mothra@descentrecords.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 at 8:08:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] will logic 8 install affect logic 7 ?
Message #234170
This is a reply to #234162.
On Oct 3, 2007, at 4:51 PM, Paul wrote: > I want to try out Logic 8 on my current, but in case I run into any > problems, I want to be able to run Logic 7 still. Does Logic 8 > overwrite any preferences etc used by Logic 7, or does it have its own > set of prefs, etc. > > Thanks > > Paul > Lots of folks on this list told me it wouldnt do anything but Im sorry that is not the case.. My Logic 7 app was upgraded and merged with new content and became Logic Pro 8. I had to go back to the Logic 7.2 DVD, use pacifist to pull the app back out, and then use pacifist to merge the later updates into it just to get my 7.2.3 back.. Im wondering if those people that told me 'No it doesnt do anything to Logic 7' failed to mention they renamed it or moved it out of the applications folder first. I have both back now, Logic 7 is now just named Logic Pro 7. Havent seem to hit any snags since all the settings got wiped, as I do have to use 7 here at home for anything old Im also working on at the studio because 8 wont run on the studio mac (dual 867).. And yes it will over write all of your settings in /Library/ Application Support/Logic. However you can install the leftover instrument and effects settings from Logic 7 that get wiped (theres actually not that many only a few instrument/sampler presets actually) and those simply get placed in a folder in the tree. For example, the EXS 24 Logic 7 stuff will be in / Library/App Support/Logic /Sampler Instruments/12 Legacy Instruments.. Theres few others like the EFM1 has an 08 EFM1 Legacy bank now.. Not sure how this will affect any old song using those presets in their regular spot, as Im pretty sure Logic doesnt attach the preset file specifically to the plugin and even if it gets wiped out, your song should have the last instrument/effect settings used in it anyways. I pulled my entire Application Support/Logic folder out before I upgraded just in case then spent the entire night renaming all the folders for presets from like Compressor -> #Logic 7 and moved them into my respective User settings folders.. Once I looked at the Logic 7 Legacy Content with Pacifist and saw what little was in it, I realized all that work was for nothing as theres only a handful of things from 7 that end up in those aforementioned Legacy folders.. 95% of the presets are still there. Some of them however have newer names, pretty similar to the 7 versions but if youre looking for a particularly named preset, it might be slightly different now.. The folders are organized a bit different too as theyre all numbered now but it should be pretty painless as long as you remember to move your Pro 7 or rename it before you install!! --- Chris www.monotrematamusic.com www.descentrecords.com
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From: "mt100uk" <miketaylor100@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 at 5:30:11 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: will logic 8 install affect logic 7 ?
Message #234200
This is a reply to #234170.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Chris Coccia <mothra@...> wrote: > > And yes it will over write all of your settings in /Library/ > Application Support/Logic. > > However you can install the leftover instrument and effects settings > from Logic 7 that get wiped (theres actually not that many only a few > instrument/sampler presets actually) and those simply get placed in a > folder in the tree. For example, the EXS 24 Logic 7 stuff will be in / > Library/App Support/Logic /Sampler Instruments/12 Legacy > Instruments.. Theres few others like the EFM1 has an 08 EFM1 Legacy > bank now.. Not sure how this will affect any old song using those > presets in their regular spot, as Im pretty sure Logic doesnt attach > the preset file specifically to the plugin and even if it gets wiped > out, your song should have the last instrument/effect settings used > in it anyways. I had none of the issues chris described, for me it was painless, my Logic 7 icon stayed where it was in the apps folder, I had backed up so i just let it get on with it. I didn't do any preparation, as i wanted to see what it would do. All my channel strip settings were kept and automatically added to the new defaults. I've moved a lot between 7 and 8, all my stuff is still in 7 (settings etc.) I dibn't have any of the jampacks installed (before i installed 8) so i can't say what its done with that. Its been all good here... Mike
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From: Scott Crawford <jscrawford30@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 at 1:15:55 PM
Subject: Re: will logic 8 install affect logic 7 ?
Message #235095
This is a reply to #234170.
Chris: Hello, can you please share more detail on how you accomplished returning to 7.2.3? Below is a message that I have posted to other forums. Ultimately I want to go back to 7.2.3 with all of my instruments and settings as they were. I'm not sure if I should uninstall Logic 8/Studio, then reinstall Logic Pro 7.2.3 from the ground up per Apple procedure, or if I should merely use Pacifist to replace the content. If Pacifist, which content exactly? If I use the original DVD for 7.2, am I going to restore older material that might have been replaced in a later update? For that matter, did patches post 7.2 update any instrument of plug-in files that I may be concerned about? I'm looking for the most dependable, efficient, and least risky method. Thanks so much... ============================== For numerous reasons I'd like to uninstall Logic Pro 8 and return to Logic Pro 7, the reasons for which I'd rather not discuss, as I'd like to focus on the reinstallation task. Apple states that Logic Pro 7 still functions, but this is not entirely correct. Since many instruments were replaced, the complex 50-track songs that I painstakingly mixed on pure LP7 (prior to the upgrade) now sound completely different in LP7 post-LP8 install (as well as LP8 as you can imagine). It seems that the levels are actually different on some of the EXS and other instruments. Yes, Apple says they are richer and better, but I really don't care. I am in the middle of a CD and need to return to the state I was in prior to the upgrade. Ultimately I'd like to reinstall Logic Pro 7 and/or its content in order to get all of my original instruments back. Does anyone have a procedure for this? Should I uninstall Logic Pro 8 and then perform a complete reinstall of Logic Pro 7 following Apple's procedure? Or should I simply use Pacifist to replace the content files that were replaced? Will any of my preferences (plug-in settings) be lost during a reinstall? Should the rest of Logic Studio be uninstalled as well? Thanks in advance.
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From: Chris Coccia <mothra@descentrecords.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 at 2:58:15 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: will logic 8 install affect logic 7 ?
Message #235098
This is a reply to #235095.
Scott Crawford wrote: > Message posted by Scott Crawford <jscrawford30@yahoo.com>: > > Chris: > > Hello, can you please share more detail on how you accomplished returning to 7.2.3? > > Below is a message that I have posted to other forums. > > Ultimately I want to go back to 7.2.3 with all of my instruments and settings as they were. > I'm not sure if I should uninstall Logic 8/Studio, then reinstall Logic Pro 7.2.3 from the ground up per Apple procedure, or if I should merely use Pacifist to replace the content. If Pacifist, which content exactly? If I use the original DVD for 7.2, am I going to restore older material that might have been replaced in a later update? For that matter, did patches post 7.2 update any instrument of plug-in files that I may be concerned about? I'm looking for the most dependable, efficient, and least risky method. > > Thanks so much... > Was this message for me?? You should really quote the initial email so we know.. I didnt 'return' to 7.2.3, I used Pacifist to pull the application out and put it back in my Applications folder. Ive never used any of the Garageband or EXS instruments that come with Logic so I didnt need the old settings folders put back. You just use Pacifist, you can search the installer package and grab just the Logic 7.2 app. Then you open the updates with Pacifist, tell it to merge it with the previous app. Voila 7.2.3 back. But to repair your system the way you want it youre going to have to remove Logic 8 and just reinstall 7. Maybe pulling the 4GB of sampler instruments/plug in settings with Pacifist will work if you name them right and put them back in the right location. -- Chris http://www.monotrematamusic.com http://www.myspace.com/monotremata http://www.descentrecords.com
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