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From: stephband <stephband@lineone.net>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 at 6:06:58 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re:[OT]Iive rig tips, sax and keys
Message #232026
>> [OT]Iive rig tips, sax and keys >> Posted by: "Erik Häusler" erikhausler@mac.com slutsomartist >> Tue Sep 4, 2007 2:28 am (PST) >> >> What would you have a look at or go for? >> Any favorite processors? Plugs? General tips? Setup ditto? > Posted by: "Per Boysen" perboysen@gmail.com perboysen > I have chosen to handle patch > changes by setting up 128 Channel Strip Performances. I have a MIDI > foot pedal that sends MIDI Program Change into the PB on MIDI Channel > 1. Logic's Performances are preset to answer to MDI channel 1 > incoming on the selected track. I'm mostly playing EWI, by MIDI, on > this rig and at the moment I'm not in a position to verify that > Performances called up by external MIDI PC also works on Audio > Tracks. Per - not sure what you mean by Channel Strip Performances? I don't see any references to it in the manual. Do you mean Channel Strip Settings? I was unaware that you can change those with Program Changes... I'm using an AKG C419 into a Metric Halo 2882. I tend to have other feeds in, some from other performers, as well as various combinations of outputs, and I really appreciate the flexibility of routing that the Metric Halo Console gives. It means I don't have to re-program my Logic songs if I add, say, a dedicated subwoofer on a seperate channel, or if someone needs a monitor feed of their own. I also like the low latency. The C419 is a bright hypercardiod capsule with strong off axis rejection so it's suitable for playing in loud bands or small venues because it really focusses in on what you point it at. When you're playing an acoustic instrument through effects, you really NEED that rejection to avoid the effects being applied to everone. I can't recommend it as the best mic to get for sound quality. It sounds good on my curved soprano sax and decent on my alto, but it is very toppy and generally needs some 200-500Hz boosting and a bit of reduction to its presence peak, particularily on alto and other large instruments. Certainly not "rich and natural", more tight and bright. If I'm ever forced into using it on a horn while location recording I almost always end up applying some subtle warm Clip Distortion to it in the mix. I also use a Behringer BCR2000 knob box and a FCB1010 pedal board, and I use the computer for looping more than for live effects with several instances of Augustus Loop by Expert Sleepers, each on separate tracks, each with their own effects in the channel strip. I'm also into Logic's Tape Delay (it is possible to set this up as a looper, but the max loop time isn't very long), AutoFilter, Spectral Gate and Ambience by Magnus at Smart Electronix. If I could find a better Pitch Shifter than the internal one I would. You have to be careful, live, of using plugins that cause latency: ▪ Adaptive Limiter ▪ Limiter ▪ Multipressor ▪ Noise Gate ▪ Silver Gate ▪ Linear Phase EQ ▪ Match EQ ▪ EnVerb ▪ Space Designer ▪ Denoiser ▪ Pitch Correction ▪ Pitch Shifter II ▪ Vocal Transformer I also trigger pre-prepared sequences using the Touch Tracks environment object. Cheers Stephen.
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From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 at 7:50:03 AM
Subject: [LUG] Channel Strip Performances by MIDI Program Change (was: Iive rig tips, sax and keys)
Message #232033
This is a reply to #232026.
On 5 sep 2007, at 13.06, stephband wrote: > Per - not sure what you mean by Channel Strip Performances? I don't > see any references to it in the manual. Do you mean Channel Strip > Settings? No, I mean what I wrote. > I was unaware that you can change those with Program > Changes... And you were correct, since you were referring to Channel Strip Settings, which are not the same as the Performances. Below is a quote from page 35 in "New Features i Logic Pro 7.2" (add-on to the manual). Hope you find it as useful as I do. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) ______________________________________________ Logic Pro 7.2 allows you to switch between Channel Strip settings by sending MIDI program change messages. It also allows you to toggle the bypass status of Insert slots with one controller value. The following chapter outlines all mixing and bouncing enhancements made since the release of Logic Pro 7. This includes support of stereo ReWire Objects, the Hand tool in the Track Mixer and Arrange window channel strips, Surround Pan window and Bounce window improvements. Using Channel Strip Performances You can now switch between Channel Strip settings by sending MIDI program change messages. This allows you to select your favorite “sounds” (consisting of a complete Channel Strip setting that can contain a software instrument and effect plug-ins) by pushing a button on your MIDI keyboard. This facility is named Channel Strip Performances. Important: Only program change messages sent on MIDI channel 1 will switch between Channel Strip Performances. All program change messages sent on other MIDI channels are forwarded to Audio Units instruments, if applicable. Channel Strip Performances can be used for all Audio Object types. They are saved in the Performances subfolder (in ~/Library/Application Support/Logic/ Channel Strip Settings/Audio Object name). The Performance names start with the corresponding Program Change number (as examples: 001Piano, 045FlangeGuitar, 111ArcoCelloHall). There are 128 Performances (corresponding to 128 available program change events). To create a Performance setting: 1 Configure a channel strip that you would like to have available as a performance (by opening a Channel Strip setting from the factory library and making changes according to your needs, for example). 2 Open the Channel Strip Settings menu by clicking the word Insert on any channel strip, then choose “Save as Performance”. 3 In the ensuing dialog, enter a Performance name, choose a program change number and click OK. You can also set the program change number by sending it from your MIDI controller. Note: By default, the dialog will suggest the lowest, unused program change number. An alert will advise you of any attempt to insert a program change number that is already assigned. Click Overwrite if you want to replace the existing Performance assigned to this program change number. As soon as an Audio Object receives a program change message on MIDI channel 1 that corresponds to an assigned Performance number, it will load this Performance. Note: If an unassigned program change value is sent, the channel strip ignores the message, and the currently loaded Channel Strip Performance setting remains in place. All saved Performance settings appear in the Performances folder of the Channel Strip Settings menu. Multiple Selection of Channel Strips The Multiple Selection of channel strips function (in the Mixer windows) has been enhanced: Clicking a channel background (without Shift held) also allows you to select further channels by dragging over them (in the background).
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From: "Keith Gemmell" <musichothouse@musichothouse.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 at 3:54:20 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re:[OT]Iive rig tips, sax and keys
Message #232054
This is a reply to #232026.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, stephband <stephband@...> wrote: > > >> [OT]Iive rig tips, sax and keys > >> Posted by: "Erik Häusler" erikhausler@... slutsomartist > >> Tue Sep 4, 2007 2:28 am (PST) > >> > >> What would you have a look at or go for? > >> Any favorite processors? Plugs? General tips? Setup ditto? > > If I could find a > better Pitch Shifter than the internal one I would. Stephen, If your version of OS X has it, try Apple's AUPitch. I find that it works much better than Logic's and used it a fair bit on my new album: http://www.saxmusicplus.com/unsafe-sax.htm Keith Gemmell
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